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What Women Want in a Man

by David DeAngelo

If you want to have more romantic interactions with women, that doesNOT mean that you need to "take women out on dates" in order to do it.
DATING TIPS MAILBAG: What Women Want In A Man
By David DeAngelo
***QUESTION***

Hi Dave,

I just bought the advanced CDseries & it's amazing what a difference they make over the book.Being able to listen on the way to work, whilst out doing chores, etc.is cool. I can feel the confidence building inside me, it's like my ownpersonal coach.

The C&F doesn't come naturallyto me at present so I've taken your advice and am using the internet asa 'woman simulator' in order to practice. I've had mixed results sofar, I think a few took the teasing the wrong way as some of them wouldsuddenly stop replying.

I must be better at the C&Fthan I thought though. The first time I went on this site I waschatting to a few girls and one of them ended up giving me her mobileand asking if we could go for coffee before I had chance to. Anyway myquestion: You suggest that a date should simply be 'tea &stimulating conversation', which for all of the reasons you give makesperfect sense to me. But once I've done the tea & conversation withthis girl, do you have any suggestions for other dates where I can comeacross as the 'lover' instead of the 'provider'. The only one where Iwouldn't end up having to shell out (buy her stuff) that I can think ofis a walk along the river or something, but that's rather dependant onthe weather.

Thanks for changing my life.

AIB - London UK


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Yea, well you're welcome for the "changing your life" thing. Glad to help.

Now, you're kind of mixing up a couple of concepts that I never intended to "depend" on one another...

If you want to know where to takea woman for dates, that shouldn't be confused with whether or not youcome across as a "lover" personality, and not a "provider" personalityto her.

Let me ask you something... what is a "date"?

What do you think that the purpose of a "date" is?

Now, I call my material "Double Your Dating", but what I DON'T mean is "take women out to dinner twice as much as you used to".

The word "Dating" is simply a word that all of us guys understand to mean "romantic interactions with women".

So I use it.

But if you want to have moreromantic interactions with women, that does NOT mean that you need to"take women out on dates" in order to do it.

Are you with me?

I mean, what do couples do a year after they get together...?

They stay home most of the time, do normal things like go shopping, and generally behave like they did before they met.

This whole "going out to dinner"ritual is really an amazing concept. It's awesome how powerful it is...and how guys really believe that they need to do it (or similar things)in order to get a woman's attention in a romantic way.

Here's the bottom line:

If you want a woman to think of you as a "lover", then BE ONE.

If you want her to think of you as a provider, then just BE ONE.

What you haven't quite realizedfully yet is that when you know how to trigger ATTRACTION in a woman,all the "normal" rules go away.

If a woman feels that powerfulemotional ATTRACTION for you, then she'll do ANYTHING with you... justto be in your presence and have your attention.

If you have dialed up the ATTRACTION, then all you need to say is "come over here".

No dates required.

Now, if you buy her dinner 10times, call her 3 times a day, and chase her around, then it will beEXPECTED that you continue this pattern... and provide for her.

NOTE: If you're buying a womandinner twice a week, giving her flowers, calling her every day, andbasically "chasing" her, then you can be about 80% sure that there'sanother guy in the picture... but guess what? He's the one who SHEcalls, and he's the one who says "Come over later, I'm busy now"... nodates required.

If you want to be a LOVER to a woman, then DO IT.

You don't need to wait until the third time out for coffee or tea.

You'll learn that ATTRACTION doesn't have a timeline.

It happens VERY QUICKLY, if you know how to trigger it... and you don't need a lot of "date ideas" once you do.

And now that I've avoided your question for a page or two, let me answer with this:

I often take women to do "regular"things with me. I'll take them to the grocery store to shop with me,out to the mall to pick things up, and down to the bookstore to buy abook.

First, start BEING the LOVER immediately.

Then, notice how women DON'T CARE what you do together, as long as she's with you.


***SUCCESS STORY***

David,

Just wanted to say that afterreading your material, I experienced a mental shift. I now seesituations in terms of: was I self-referenced (C & F Man) orexternally referenced (wussie boy)? It is now very clear that successin anything comes to leaders not followers and women hate dealing withfollowers. For example look at little boys dealing with little girlswhen they are playing together. They boss them around, make them playby their rules and those girls grow up expecting men to lead them. Justwatch any John Garfield or Lee Marvin movie. Leaders get the girl,wussies get to be used and discarded. I've made my choice.

Thanks David
E from Chi

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Good. Now help me get the word out to the other 3 billion guys on the planet.

You're right. Women don't like men who are FOLLOWERS.

Women aren't ATTRACTED to men who are FOLLOWERS.

But guess what? Most men FOLLOW anyway.

Thanks for reminding us that we need to LEAD. Leading creates ATTRACTION. Following creates the curious dry feeling.


***SUCCESS STORY***

Dave-- I definitely have to giveit to you. You are "da shizznitt", lol. Your DYD dvd series has reallychanged my entire life. I now feel like I am in control of "My World".I was a little hesitant about buying your product... but I just said"What the Hell...What can I loose???" I am military and in my sparetime I am a bartender. You know what that means... I see females outthe izzass, lol. I was working one night and a female came up to one ofmy fellow bartenders to order something and while getting her drink...she asked told him... " all these guys are staring at me. Do you thinki'm cute?" Now normally if I were in his shoes and hadn't learned whatyou taught me... I would have melted and told her that she was thefinest thing to step foot on this base... case in point...that was whathe said. He just bent down unzipped his pants and practically handedher his nuts. Hence, her hands being the nutcracker. I interrupted themwhile he was "dazed and confused" and told her "Actually they'relooking at that big pimple on your forehead. She stopped and turnedtowards me and laughed and hit me on the arm. Then I told her not toget mad cuz I was cuter than she. She smiled and for some odd reason...she could not keep herself away from the bar. I just pretended that shewas one of my friends that I tease all the time and just called her oneverything that she did. Man... I couldn't believe that she was reallyeating this up!!! The other bartender that she was talking to first,couldn't believe that I was doing this!!! He.... for some odd reasondidn't GET what was going on... It was like jets flying over his head.And to show that his nuts belonged to her... he just kept trying tocompliment her. She just glanced at him smiled and quickly turned herhead to pay him no mind. I got her e-mail and number and she has beenlike putty in my hands for the past three months. I have to give it toyou, Dave. You da man!!! I'm not a selfish person...so I gave him youre-mail address and hopefully he'll get your system and realize whathe's been doing wrong. I should give him her e-mail address so that hecan ask for his balls back, lol. But... for those who have doubts aboutDave's system... I'm living proof of success.

Thanks Dave!!!

JR - Mexico


>>>MY COMMENTS:

OK, first of all, I think that you must have some kind of bizarre NUT OBSESSION, dude.

And it's not right.

But hey, fortunately you're on theright side of the "don't hand them over" equation, so everything seemslike it might be all right for you.

You've given some great examplesof how to get an attractive woman's attention, tease her, and play withher to "spark" that initial sexual tension and "chemistry".

Now make sure you keep it up soyou're not writing me in 3 more months with the "She used the TrojanHorse De-Nutting Technique" on me.


***QUESTION***

Hey Man, What has happened towomen's standards? All the beautiful babes with no neck dorks! I am agood looking guy and I can't even get a phone number. They go out withguys that weigh like 300 lbs and dress like slobs. I wear nice clothesand drive a nice car and I can't get a single date. Maybe it is where Ilive. In order to get a date I will have to gain 200 lbs and havesomeone break my nose so I am ugly enough for some girl to date me.American girls suck! They have no taste anymore!

I give up!


>>>MY COMMENTS:

No, I think that the problem is that you whine like a whipped Bitch.

Women can smell a "victim" attitude 100 miles away, and it IS NOT ATTRACTIVE.

Women's "standards" are just fine.

The problem isn't them, it's YOU.

Now do yourself a favor and quit ACTING like a little girl, and DO SOMETHING about your situation.

What, do you think that all the average and ugly guys out there who have HOT girlfriends are getting them by being ugly?

The answer is "No, they're not".

These guys are getting the babes because they know how to make the women feel ATTRACTION.

Trust me, I know quite a few guys who are NOT exactly the picture of "handsome"... but these guys get a lot of women.

Why?

Because they KNOW HOW.

Now quit whining, and go LEARN.


***SUCCESS STORY***

Dear Dr. D, Just wanted to dropyou a quick note. I am a 34 year old and divorced using your E-book tolearn how to get back into the game. Since I was raised by my parentsto be a nice guy, submissive, wussy, it has been a challenge toovercome these self-destructive traits---but I am gaining ground everyday. Also, I don't have any natural ability for C&F. For the mostpart I am quiet and reserved----so I have needed to re-train myself inthat area also. You have given me a good start by explaining attractionand what women want.

I want to stress the importance of"practice". It's the only way to quickly improve your inner and outergame. What has helped me is practicing on an old girlfriend. I am suremany of your students like me have a woman that just won't let you gofrom an old relationship. So, I have not completely ended it for sexand companionship and she keeps me around for sex and emotionalsupport.

Anyway----to my amazing weekend:Saturday, I went out with the old girlfriend and busted on her andchallenged her on many issues all night. My old self would have shut upand zoned out---not this time. I didn't put up with any of hernonsense. It ended at my place and we had an amazing double session.She is now hooked more than ever even though she knows I am seeingother people. She can't help herself. I have triggered the attractionmechanism and more importantly I know what I did to accomplish that.Sunday I spent the day with a cute girl who had responded to myinternet ad. We had only been out once before. I played thegame---didn't act overly sexually interested, just enough....I used theC&F when I could, but basically kept cool. She offered to pay ourlunch/cocktail bill. My old self would have foolishly denied heroffer---thinking I was the man, thinking I was being chivalrous (howfoolish ;). This time I accepted without hesitation. Once back at myplace I used the start and stop technique. I would get her hot, then Iwould back off. She would stop my hand from reaching too far so Idecided that I wasn't going to push it and that tonight might not be"the night" with her so I was very relaxed. At 10:00 she was gettingready to leave. We started making out while saying goodbye----nextthing I know , we were in the bedroom. It was amazing. The fun lastedall night. Today I am tired with a smile on my face. I know it workedout because I put the proper groundwork in place. By turning my sexualadvances on and then off-----it really got to her. Acting as if I wasevaluating her...the whole thing. Thank you for pointing me in theright direction, I am starting to get it!!! Literally ;)

C
Fort Lauderdale, Fl

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Yea, you really are starting to GET IT.

And you are RIGHT ON.

This stuff takes practice and real-world experience using it before you really "get it".

Too many guys are just too damned overly-analytical, and want to know how to do EVERYTHING before they do ANYTHING.

I used to be this way... and it cost me a lot of time and energy.

It's so amazing to actually getout there and SEE results right in front of your eyes. It gets youexcited and willing to try more things... and it prepares you for thefuture... for situations that are REALLY important.

Get out there and use this stuff.

Start NOW.


***QUESTION***

Dave,

What does it mean when a woman says she wants to "work on herself" before she can have a relationship?

>>>MY COMMENTS:

The literal translation for this is:

"I DON'T FEEL ATTRACTION FOR YOU, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TELL YOU WITHOUT HURTING YOUR LITTLE WUSSY BOY GIRLIE FEELINGS."

Any of the following:

"I need time alone right now."

"I need to find me first."

"Let's just be friends for now."

...etc. mean:

"I DON'T FEEL ATTRACTION."

That's the bottom line.

The problem is YOU, not HER.

Don't be surprised if this same girl either IS or STARTS dating another guy seriously soon.

If you're hearing this kind ofthing often, then you need to take it as a sign that you're nottriggering ATTRACTION inside of women... and, more importantly, thatyou need to LEARN HOW.

I recommend my Advanced Dating Techniques Program.

This will help eliminate these types of comments from women once and for all.

Here, let me brag for a minute...

I'm sitting here thinking about it, and I can't remember a woman saying one of these things to me in YEARS.



***QUESTION***

Mr. Dave!

You are the man! I have beengetting your emails for about 8 months now I belive and have read yourbook! Just yesterday I was in the store looking at CD's and I noticedthese two beautiful girls walking around and they would constantly lookover towards me. As I wandered around the store more I noticed thatthey seemed to always show up wherever I was. So I stopped them andasked the girl that I was more attracted to "Excuse me but i'm going tohave to ask you to stop stalking me." She looked at her friend like'What is this boy talking about' and then she asked me for my name. Iimmediately answered "Do you really think i'm just going to give myname out to a stalker?" once again she looked like she couldn't believeI was talking to her this way. We talked about five more minutes andthen I told her I had to go. She asked me if I wanted her number so wecould continue the conversation. I pretended to think about it and thentold her "I'm sorry but I'm just going to be way too busy to find timeto call you. So If you promise to stop stalking me i'll give you mynumber and you can try and catch me when I have a few minutes of freetime to talk." She eagerly took my number and when I got home about anhour later she had already left a message on my machine to see if Icould go out with her this weekend!
I was so happy because I wascurious too see if I reversed the three minute phone number to giveaway my number instead of getting hers would work and it did! Anyway onto my question. As I stated this girl was with a friend at the storewho was also very attractive and was there the whole time I was hittingup her friend. Is there anyway in these situations where you can getboth girls numbers?

AF- AK

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Nice "reverse stalker" move.

I say things like this to women all the time, and they generally love it.

To answer your question, YES, there's an easy way to get both girls' phone numbers.
ASK.

Then call and ask them BOTH to come join you for a cup of tea.

Kill two birds with one stone.

Then, over tea you can decide which one you like more.

I've had friends who have been insimilar situations report back that sometimes both women will likeyou... and EACH OTHER as well.

I mean, what do you have to lose? 2 minutes of getting a phone number?

Look, your question was based in fear.

Fear that you'd offend one or both of the women, and then lose everything.

The fact is that you never HAD anything.

A phone number is easy to get. Ifyou feel like asking both women for their numbers, do it. If you feellike asking them both to join you for tea, do it.

You get to make the rules.


***SUCCESS STORY***

David,

I received your DVD series about amonth ago and have watched it in its entirety a few times. I've noticeda strange circumstance since then, similar to what Napoleon Hill saysabout how when you choose a definite major purpose in life, ways andmeans of attaining that purpose seem to magically appear to you. WhenI've been in situations where I wasn't actually interacting with awoman and laying on the C&F, they've still been acting attracted tome despite the fact that I consciously did NOTHING in these situations.For example:

- A bar/restaurant I hit aboutonce a week has a very hot waitress staff, and one in particular is aPam Anderson clone who's always being stared at and complimented by allthe wussy guys. She's been working at least a dozen times that I'vebeen in there but has never acted like she even noticed me until thelast time (since I've watched the DVDs) and she kept looking at me,over and over again, despite the fact that I did NOTHING different.Finally I gave her the "wrinkled brow" suspicious look and she got allself-conscious, said "what?" and I came right back with "if you'regonna be that forward and flirty with me you could've at least doneyour hair up a little better" and then it was ON!

- I met some friends for happyhour and a very hot chick was sitting at a table holding some guy'shand. Every other guy in the place was staring at her and she was sohot that I even overheard some of the waitresses trashing her. Thething is, I had been watching the DVDs that same day and came walkingin with a particularly cocky swagger and the wrinkled brow and shestared me down the whole way in. Then she would not stop looking overat me while she was holding this dude's hand, he was obviously a Wussysince he saw what was going on and did nothing (I guess he's the guyshe uses for free dinners while she's banging the real men). At onepoint she even took the long way to the bathroom to walk by me andflirt but with the Wussy watching there was no op to get the info...hopefully I run into her again.

It's obvious that just watchingthe DVD series gives one an aura of confidence, since I did nothing inthese situations but show up. Kinda like reading Comedy Writing Secretsthen suddenly being funnier without actually thinking about it andtrying. Simply watching and learning this material opens doors for youwithout trying!

FR
Phoenix


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Ah, you're tapping into the power of the mind here.

One of the BIG benefits oflearning all of the material that I teach in my programs is the changesthat naturally occur inside your mind.

Once you see things differently, you begin to BEHAVE differently as well. And it will happen automatically.

Now, I don't mean to sound new-agey here, but this is the reality of the situation.

Women can pick up on subtle body language that most men don't even know EXISTS.
When you start "mentallyrehearsing" some of the things you learn from my programs, you willautomatically act differently when you're in future situations withwomen.

Great job, and keep it up.

And make sure you send in some future Success Stories, as I'm sure you're going to have many.


***SUCCESS STORY***

Hey Dave,

Blah blah blah, I shamelessly compliment you, you feel like a deity... there we're done.

Your book would be worth it'sweight in gold, even if it were made of lead! I stumbled onto your siteby accident. A month before, I was Let's Just BeFriended for being "toonice", and this was with an UGLY thing too! eh... I was desperate. Iactually laughed at those "losers" for getting slapped on the arm andcalled a**hole, and later, I thought the chicks were idiots for datingthem!! I'm better now. After reading your book it was like the heavenswere parted and g*d HIMself bitch slapped the wuss right out of me!Thanks.

Not only am I getting slapped,bitten, chewed on, and fought over, I am LOVING it too! Just the otherday I was in a bookstore, and an old friend (read "hot chick") of minecame in, I thought, 'hey I am here just being my new self, lets trysomething', so I walked over to her, said hi, and then said "I didn'texpect to see a beautiful young woman here" she said "aww that's sosweet" (read "you wussy") but then I did something that has beenworking really well for me, I busted on her. I said "maybe I stillwill" Slap on arm, AND big smile. She was wearing this rather largeskirt with ruffles, so I said "wow... I didn't know the parachute lookwas still in" while obviously staring at it. Another slap on arm, thistime laughing. Later she asked if I got my hair cut (I hadn't) she saidit "whatever it is, its really attractive." There is this coffee shopin the store, so we had "stimulating conversation" a little while wentby, and she asked me to go to her car with her, so she could "show me anew piece of art." well needless to say, we are still "appreciatingart" together, and its been two months!

So the question is... Willcomplimenting the ladies then busting on whatever I just complimentedwork the same as if not complimenting at all?


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Ah, one of my favorites...

Giving a woman a compliment, then putting a backhanded twist on it.

"Wow, your shoes are cute. Did you buy them new?"

"Your hair is pretty. Did your mom do it for you?"

"Nice car. If you're homeless."

Pick up any modern men's magazine and you'll get a bunch of good ideas for this type of thing.

Cocky & Funny can be very powerful once you learn how to use it. Great example, and thank you.


***QUESTION***

Hey Dave, I have been reading youremails and have purchased your ebook and have read and studied fromboth. I would 'study' areas I felt I was weak in or would that be wussyin, to improve, naturally, but would read everything for as muchknowledge as I could absorb. Well, I have a success story but with aslight twist to it. The twist is my success was due to playing off of 2other guys' failures.

I went to a club in a part of townI normally do not go to. Not that it is a bad part of town I just neverthought of going there. I went by myself, so on my own, no one formoral support, in a place I have never been before. Talk about givingyour ideas the acid test, this was going to be it. I was looking downat the dance floor getting into the music and noticed behind me twogirls sitting at a table. I then noticed 2 guys approach and onestarted to talk to one of the girls. The other guy was just standingthere looking at girl #2 trying to get up the nerve to say something,from what I could tell, since I was that way myself in a not so distantpast. I just turned away and didn't pay much attention but after 10mins or so the same guy talking to girl #1 is not making any headway.Guy 2 still had his wuss game going so no change there. I decided toask girl # 2 to dance but wanted to get her attention and interest, aswell. So I leaned over and said, "While that guy is trying to hustleyour friend, whom, I might he is not doing very well, would you like todance?" Well, this girl just cracked up laughing, she did not want todance but did want to talk more. She went on to say that there isnothing he could say or do at this point to make her want to dance orgo out with him. He just doesn't get it, she said. I went on to say Iknow it is crowded and a bit loud here but one should understand NOeasy enough. She agreed and went on to mention how much of a loser hisfriend is just standing there. I then remembered a statement someoneused in an email of yours and thought I would use it myself. I said togirl #2 "what's that smell, do you smell that?" She replies, "Whatsmell?" I said, "The smell of desperation." Well, Dave, that girllaughed so hard she fell out of her chair. I helped her up and when shetold me she had to tell her girl friend that and when she leaned overto talk to her I just turned away and went back to looking at thepeople dancing.

After a bit this girl came up tome and said look at those losers they are just standing on the dancefloor while people are dancing around them. They did look prettypathetic. We talked a bit and I asked her name but I did not quiteunderstand it since she was Latin and had a Latin name I could not makeout what she said, what with all the loud music and noise. Just thensome friends of hers and her girl friend's came in and she started totalk to them so again I just turned away and watched people on thedance floor. After a bit she came back and grabbed my arm and said comeon I want to introduce you to my friends. After she introduces everyoneto me I turn to her and ask what was your name again? Is it ludicrous?She just busted up laughing again and tried to tell me her name again.By now, she is holding my hand and we started dancing right there. Wetalked a bit and I told her she has to write her name down so I canpronounce correctly when I call her. She say's, "Call me?" I said,"Yes, since you are writing your name down you might as well give meyour number. How else am I going to call you? Oh, and if you have emailyou might as well give me that also."

She said, that it was cool meetingme and gave me a hug and kiss. She then went back to her friends and Ijust turned away and called it a night.

It may not have been nice to use the 2 guys wuss behavior to my advantage but it worked.

N from Miami Beach

>>>MY COMMENTS:

LOL... so you went off secretly toa bar alone... hoping that no one would see you testing the materialsout for yourself... lol.

Yea, sometimes it's rough when other guys act like Wussy Jackasses...

But hey, it makes your life easier and more fun!

So what the hell, right?

I have to say, one of my personal favorite things to do with women I've just met is make fun of how other guys are acting.

It's particularly fun in these bar-type situations, where you can watch one interaction after another.

Most guys suck at approaching women, and it makes for great humor and conversation.

Of course, talking about howterrible other guys are INSTANTLY separates you from the herd, and kindof puts you in the "NON-WUSS" category all by itself.

Another personal favorite of mineis to tell a girl that she should get together with one of the guysthat is acting like a jackass.

"I think you and that Wuss-Boyover there would make a cute couple. He looks like he needs a mom likeyou to tell him what to do..." etc.

You've done a great job here, now keep it up.

And thanks for the great example.Always remember in these situations that a big scoop of COCKY &FUNNY will make things go well.

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Not Being a Wussyby David DeAngelo

It really is amazing that there is a way to have success with women... while still being an honest, straight-shooting guy.
DATING TIPS MAILBAG: Initial Conversations With Women, Not Being A Wussy, And Other Gems...
By David DeAngelo
***SUCCESS STORY:

Hey Dave,

Just wanted to drop you a line on how my personal story has been goingsince I started doing things "your way". I have checked every "girlstrategy" out there, you know the ones, and have to say that yoursystem is the most simple, and most effective one out there. Yoursystem gives men the start, and allows them to put their own personaltouches on it. Then, after some success, (and some failures, of course,he he) we can come back and get even more out of it. Awesome, man.

I'm 27, and have tried your way starting 2 years ago. It took me a longtime to get "it", but the journey has been incredible. My friends can'tbelieve the change in me, and I am now helping friends who I oncethought were so much better than me. My relationships with women are somuch more fulfilling now than they ever were when I was just trying to"get laid".

I think the one fundamental issue you push, which is so overlooked, isthe idea that a man can be absolutely honest, know what he wants, andget it. There are no tricks here, this is about being absolutely trueto yourself. That is what attracts women to us, our unfalteringhonesty, even when we are afraid that that honesty will push them away.The exact opposite is true.

Buying dinner, flowers, kissing ass, all of that crap is, at its coreelement, dishonest. Being cocky and funny, being true to yourself, andacting like a man, is, at core element, totally honest. I think womenreally appreciate that, and I think it turns them on in a way that eventhey don't understand. I am really starting to get this, and it getsbetter every day.

Please put out more products, we want them, and have no problem payinga reasonable price for this information. My several different girl"friends" each hotter than the next, appreciate this as well. My lifehas never been so good. Thanks for making it that way, I owe you waymore than the price of your products, of which I have purchased all.God bless you man, you rock.

Your friend,
M


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Yea, it really is amazing that there is a way to have success with women... while still being an honest, straight-shooting guy.

Whodathunkit, huh?

A few more comments...

Yes, I know how frustrating it is to go searching for good informationon how to be more successful with women and dating... only to findhalf-baked ideas from people who have no clue what they're doing.

And you're observation that buying women gifts, food, and flower is, at its core, DISHONEST is pretty interesting, too.

Most of the guys who look at my stuff and say "I don't like your ideasbecause I don't like to MANIPULATE women" will turn right around andhave no problem buying a woman dinner in hopes that she'll sleep withthem.

Go figure.

Well congrats on sticking with it and getting this part of your lifehandled. It feels good, and I have a lot of respect for guys who takethe initiative to go DO SOMETHING.

Thanks for your email.


***SUCCESS STORY***

Here's one for the history books: David DeAngelo, the Man who made Dating Scientific.

It's amazing how turned off women are by eager guys working hard toimpress, and how much they love the composed bad boys who refuse tokiss ass. At a party I overheard a nearby conversation where a guy wastalking to a hot girl, basically kissing up to her with the infinitelyboring "yeah, I see what you mean" and "I really identify with that"type responses. I just sat there with a kind of crooked half-smile, andin a minute the girl started talking to me. I used one of your bestrules, Never Give a Woman a Direct Answer Unless it's No. Before long,this girl was telling me I acted like a "stone cold psycho" who could"bury somebody in a field somewhere and never think twice". Next thingI know she's handing me her number. Now I have no interest at all inkilling people, but it cracks me up that this chick jokes about mebeing a psycho and then wants to go out.

JC
Knoxville, TN
>>>MY COMMENTS:

Hey, I never said that women make sense.

lol...

You know, several serial killers have all kinds of female "worshippers".

And have you ever noticed how when some crazy dude escapes from jail, they always find him shackin' up with his old girlfriend?

Now, fortunately it's not necessary to be a serial killer or felon to attract women (but it doesn't seem to hurt if you are).

Women DEFINITELY don't feel that powerful "Gut Level Attraction" for "nice, sweet, needy guys".

ATTRACTION is a process that has developed over a LOOOOOOONG time. It'snot something that women think about and "work up to". It's notsomething that women PLAN.

ATTRACTION happens for reasons all its own, and you can't CONVINCE a woman to feel it.

You've obviously found success using these "illogical" techniques that I teach. Good for you, and keep it up.


***COMMENT***

Hi I ordered your double dating series and read through it this weekend...

After reading the material it struck me that this just isn't related toattracting the opposite sex.. it relates to "everything"....like mycareer, how other men respect me, etc, etc..

Their is only one thing I really want first and that is self respect,and after that have the guts to be tough, honest, funny and take achance..

I have been angry with woman for a long time (and I don't mean inviolent way) but more like afraid to go out with them, or blaming themfor not being interested in me....

Its been more like confusion about what do they want,, (and then Idon't understand) which ends up in anger,, and then the cyclecontinues.... I want this war to stop with myself. (because its mebeing angry with myself).

I listen to men's pain all the time…and its this confusion (that mendon't understand what woman want), and also poor self esteem.. so theysettle for less and end up being bossed around and poorlytreated.......

which ends up as men exploding with anger.........

I want all men tohave their manhood back (and I mean in a good way) treat woman well andbust them when they push our buttons..

I think I may start having some fun too!!!!

Sincerely

SG

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Yea, I feel ya, dog.

Here's the scenario:

You're talking toyour hot female co-worker, and she starts talking about her abusivejerk boyfriend who is constantly treating her poorly.

You sit and listen for an hour, hoping that she'll realize what a great guy you are... and then consider you instead of him.

At the end of the conversation, she stands up, says "Thanks for being such a GREAT FRIEND", and kisses you on the cheek.

A week later, she's crying because her jerk BF is at it again.

It's not too hard to get mad at women for this type of thing.

I've been there.

I've had girlfriendswho basically broke up with me or never got together with me in thefirst place... and instead chose to be with guys who didn't treat themwell.

But you're on the right track here.

Stop blaming women.

Instead, start learning how to make them feel that powerful ATTRACTION for YOU.

Sure, it takes a little effort. But I cannot imagine a greater investment in yourself and your personal life.

Nice!

I'm looking forward to hearing a Success Story from you very soon.



***SUCCESS STORY***

Dave,

I have received youremails for quite sometime now and never did buy the book but after thisweekend I have to get the whole nine yards. You have said not to beneedy and to treat the women like little sister brats. Believe you meit works amazingly. I am engaged to a 9 and lately things seemed to geta little boring. My girlfriend started acting a little distant so Ithought why not. I didn't tell her I loved her as quickly and quitgoing for a little kiss when the feeling took hold. In other words Itook two steps forward and one step back. She looked at me kinda funnya couple of times and then just jumped my bones right on the couch inthe middle of the day when we were expecting friends over for abar-b-que. I kept the cocky and funny up all night and through the restof the weekend. By Sunday night things were going just as hot as whenwe first met. Your material kept a fire from dying into ashes. Hopeyour printing doesn't run out before my next payday. LOL.

J in Texas

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Yea, you'd better get on it...

Even worse than notbeing able to meet women in the first place is meeting an EXCEPTIONALwoman and then LOSING her because you're a jackass.

You do her and yourself a favor, and save your pennies for my ADVANCED SERIES.

Hell, she'll probably buy it for you if you can't.

Even though I don't talk about "relationships" very often, I will say that the REAL challenge begins when you have one.

Keeping arelationship fresh, fun, and interesting is quite a challenge... andyou're not going to do it if you turn into a Wussy as time goes on.

Good job, man. Keep it up.



***COMMENT FROM A WOMAN***

Dear David: You sad, misbegotten, hopeless fool. No wonder you have such hideous luck with women.

With your philosophy, it's an absolute guarantee that will continue.

Good luck with thesad, misbegotten, hopeless women you are guaranteed to attract, andthat you doom your pathetic, clueless subscribers to attract.

Omigod.


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Wow, your sad, hopeless, misbegotten... and REDUNDANT email really put me in my place.

And what are youtalking about "hideous luck" with women? I date the smartest, hottest,and most interesting women running around on the planet.

Get a life, and call up the Redundancy Department Of Redundancy for some tips on how to not sound like a dumbass.

DAMMIT! I just brokemy own rule again of not allowing any letters from people who provebeyond the shadow of a doubt that they are a JACKASS within the firstthree sentences of their email.

When will I ever learn?



***QUESTION***
Hi, I have a quickquestion. I started playing bass because I thought women likedmusicians. that was six years ago. It's true, I do get a lot ofattention because of my skill at the instrument, but I can't seem tohang on to a girlfriend. What are your views on women and musicians?


>>>MY COMMENTS:

I think you need the answer to a DIFFERENT question.

The question that YOU need the answer to is:

"What are my views on women and WUSSIES?"

...because I'll bet you a dollar that the problem is you turning INTO A WUSSY.

When a guy can't seem to hold on to a woman, the problem is ALMOST ALWAYS one of the following:

1) He turns into a clingy, needy Wuss at some point during the relationship.

2) He becomes PREDICTABLE and BORING at some point during the relationship.

So stop doing those things.

And instead learn how to keep the ATTRACTION building and growing.

It's possible, but you must LEARN how.

Stay tuned for more good info.

Oh, and stop committing the two sins that I mentioned above in the meantime.



***QUESTION***
I've been readingyour emails for about two months now, and I love your stuff! Veryinteresting and enlightening. But I have a conundrum that brings up agood question.

I'm 32 years old,married for 10 years, three kids, suburban house, white picket fence,3.2 pets in the house, yadda yadda (The .2 pet is just a pitiful thing,hobbling around on two legs ...) Kidding. Anyway, I read in an earlieremail that your ideas and methods work even in a marriage relationship,and that you can still build attraction even with someone you've beenwith forever. Now, if what I am reading is correct, your core conceptof attraction has to do with mystery and anticipation, rather thanchivalry and "niceness." Now, this lady has seen me with my pants downaround my ankles with a fly swatter and a jar of peanut butter(figuratively speaking); how can I build anticipation and mystery whenshe knows me so well? If I try the three minute kiss test thing, shegonna slap my hand and say "Stop playing with my hair; I just had itcolored! Go take out the garbage! And stop playing with the peanutbutter!" Any insight would be a help!

Thanks!
D.C. Northern CA


>>>MY COMMENTS:

"...a conundrum that brings up a good question"?

She's gonna SLAP YOUR HAND?

And tell you to go take out the garbage?

Dude, you're in major trouble. I've heard of men in your position waking up with a key part of their anatomy missing.

It's not pretty.

From the sounds of it, you may already be missing some of this aforementioned equipment.

Better check.

I'll tell you what...

You have two basic choices:

1) Buy your wife some new pants and yourself a new skirt, because it's obvious that this is what she's expecting.

2) Remove your high-heels, your apron, and your WUSSY ATTITUDE, and HE-BITCH-MAN-SLAP yourself IMMEDIATELY!

Man, WAKE UP.

I know, I know... I don't like to talk about marriage and relationships. Again, I just couldn't help myself.

Look, Mystery andAnticipation don't have anything to do with you walking around withyour pants down carrying a fly swatter and a jar of peanut butter.

It has to do withhow you communicate with her... how you touch her... how you kissher... and how you behave. You obviously need to learn this stuff.

And by they way,what the hell are you doing walking around in front of your wife withyour pants down carrying, OF ALL THINGS, a fly swatter and PEANUTBUTTER?

Sounds to me like there's something you're not sharing with us.

And I'm not going even speculate.

I'm scared.


***QUESTION***


I just started theDVD series, and I can't say enough good things about it. I can alreadyfeel my confidence and self-image improving.

I realized somethingrecently that I'm sure you and a lot of other guys have encountered.When I talk to my guy friends about girls I'm dating or interested in,they tend to encourage and push me to action. When I talk to my femalefriends about girls I'm dating or interested in, they tend to saynegative things about the girl and plant doubts in my head. What do youthink about that? Even though there's no romantic interest between meand my female friends, are they acting competitive on some subconsciouslevel?

R.C, Dallas


>>>MY COMMENTS:

THE ANSWER IS YES.

If you think MEN are competitive, just wait until you start dating more WOMEN.

You will not believe how competitive women are.

A friend of mine pointed something out to me a few years ago.

He said "You knowwhen you go out to a nice bar or club, and all the women are dressedup, have their hair done, and their makeup perfect? Well they're notfixed up like that for the men... it's for the other WOMEN."

Now, at first that made no sense to me.

But the more I've paid close attention, the more I realize that it's RIGHT ON.

Women are VERY competitive.

In fact, one of the best ways to meet women is to GO OUT with a cute female friend (or more than one).

Women are always more interested in a guy who already has women around him than a guy who doesn't.

This is one of thereasons why so many married guys talk about how much more often they'reapproached by women now that they're married...

Female psychology is VERY interesting.

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How to act on the First Dateby David DeAngelo

"How should I act on the first date? What should we talk about? How do you keep the conversation interesting?"
Dating Tips Q&A: How To Act On The First Date By David DeAngelo
***THIS WEEK'S QUESTION***

"How should I act on the first date? What should we talk about? How do you keep the conversation interesting?"

These are all questions that I get asked often in one way or another, and in this dating tip I'd like to address this topic.


***MY COMMENTS***

The first thing to remember when you're meeting up with a girl for "a date" is that it's NOT an INTERVIEW.

You're not applying for a job (and neither is she), so don't act like it.

It's so funny to me when I sit down in a restaurant and I hear a couplethat's obviously out on their first date... and the guy has no ideawhat to do.

It sounds like this:

"So, did you grow up around here?"

"Where did you go to school?"

"Do you have brothers and sisters?"

"What kinds of things do you like to do for fun?"

Painful.

Why is it that people tend to act like they're on job interviews when they go out on dates?

It's just such the not-right thing to do.

I mean, no wonder women sit around with each other and complain about how hard it is to find an interesting guy in this world.

Here's a good rule of thumb:

ONLY ASK QUESTIONS OR TALK ABOUT COMMON, BORING, PREDICTABLE TOPICSLIKE SCHOOL, WORK AND FAMILY IF YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY RUN OUT OF ALLOTHER OPTIONS.

And why is this?

Good question. And I'm glad you asked.

First, let's talk about WHY most guys allow the conversation to turn to these ultra-boring topics...

Most guys approach a first date from the perspective of "I don't want to screw this up".

In other words, they try to play it safe and not do anything or say anything that the girl might not like.

They try to present themselves as "nice guys" who love mom, have a good job, and are stable.

Somehow, guys have gotten the idea that if they act nice, buy dinner,and talk about the same old things that everyone else uses to borewomen to tears that they might get lucky and score (or at least get akiss and a second opportunity to buy dinner).

I don't know where this concept came from, but it's just not a very effective approach.

WOMEN AREN'T ATTRACTED TO THE SAME OLD SAME OLD, BORING, PREDICTABLE CONVERSATION.

Attraction happens when there is energy, spice, humor, mystery... COCKY AND FUNNY... and saucy.

So if you want to create ATTRACTION instead of BOREDOM, you're going to have to learn a new way.

You're going to have to learn to talk about something else.

The trick to not talking about the "usual" things is to know how to make conversation INTERESTING.

Let me ask you, what are the most INTERESTING topics to humans in general?

Right - drama, violence, scandal, and comedy that is painful to one of the parties involved.

Here are a few good ideas for conversation that come to mind:

"So what's with The Osbournes being MTV's #1 show of all time? I guesspeople just can't get enough of dysfunctional family life... they haveto watch it on TV too."

"I'm so bummed that J-Lo and Ben are on the rocks. They were so damncute together. I was hoping that they'd have a daughter with perfecthair and a bedonka donk butt from birth."

"Have you tuned into this "Cheaters" TV show? Don't you just love itwhen they come storming into someone's house and catch the wife in bedwith another guy on national TV?"

These topics will light up a conversation like nobody's business. Andthey create all kinds of opportunities to be cocky and funny whiletalking about the misfortunes and neurotic behavior of others.

The trick is that you must remember you're not there to impress her, and you're not on a job interview.

The more you act nervous, stilted, and uncomfortable...like you'retrying to impress her and get her approval... and like you don't wantto say anything that might make her disapprove of you, the less likelyyou are to trigger that all- important ATTRACTION inside of her.

And here's a real twist on this theme:

If SHE starts asking the "normal" questions about school, job, family,etc. this is a perfect opportunity to bust on her and say "What, isthis a job interview?"

Or "Can't you think of something interesting to talk about? Please,spare me the pain of the usual school-job-family conversation. Let'ssave that until we're picking names for our kids."

Here are a few other good ideas for conversation:

1) History. Women love to hear stories about the history of places. Ifyou're in an interesting part of town, tell her the story of how thearea came to be named, or why the city was built where it is. And ifthe story involves a tale of love and/or scandal, all the better.

2) Anything superficial, classy, and basically meaningless. Trylearning a little about fashion, this way you can make fun of it whileacting like you know what you're talking about. "Didn't Madonna reallyscrew up the fashion world with this whole over-the-top fake cowboylook thing?"

3) Comedy Psychological Analysis. Have fun by giving your wildperspective on others. "You know, I've been trying to figure out why somany people these days are going postal and shooting everyone. I thinkit might be all the NSYNC, Britney Spears, and Backstreet Boys on theradio." This one can be a lot of fun... be creative.

Do you see where I'm going with this?

If you want to keep her interest, then you have to be INTERESTING.

The old-fashioned act-like-you're-on-a-job interview rap just doesn't cut it.

Now, for some guys, the ideas that I've just talked about will make sense, but they won't come naturally.

That's OK. You may have to work on this for awhile, especially if you've spent the last 25 or so years doing the wrong thing.

Old Proverb: "No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, TURN BACK."

So remember, attraction isn't a choice. And attraction doesn't makelogical sense. If you want to create that magical "chemistry", thenyou're going to have to LEARN and PRACTICE it.
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老岸

Mystery
by Mystery
Attraction + Comfort = Seduction. Each phase has three smaller stages under the Mystery Method.
He then spoke about how you need to start off every interaction with a girl with attraction, and after attraction you must qualify her by asking her questions.
But as important as attraction is, Mystery pointed out that the game is played in the “Comfort” stage of the interaction, and that it usually takes 7 hours from meet to close (ie: sex). That’s an average. It can take anywhere between 4 to 10 hours, but usually 7 (6 hours of which are in Comfort).
He went on to break down his method like this:
Attraction + Comfort = Seduction
Each phase has three smaller stages.
Mystery Method
Attraction
1. Open
2. Female to Male Attract (Make the woman attracted to us first)
3. Male to Female Attract (Find out what qualities she possesses and then use those to tell her you’re attracted to her)
Comfort
4. Comfort 1 (Build Rapport)
5. Comfort 2 (Go for phone number, build intimacy, hand holding, kino, etc)
6. Comfort 3 (Heavy intimacy, kissing, making out)
Seduction
7. Arousal
8. Last Minute Resistance
9. Sex
The next step to Opening was to install a “plotline.” Basically, Mystery said that you want to convince others that you and the target
don’t get along. By not getting along with your target, you engage the others in the group. He also spoke about how you have to have your own style. He recommended being enthusiastic about what you talk about (enthusiasm is contagious). You have to possess a strong identity and convey that Identity quickly.
Mystery

老岸

Gunwitch Method - Part 1
by Gunwitch

Gunwitch Method has helped a lot of guys understand that women love sex as much as we do.

Right off I will tell you a little about myself. Then get on to the meat of the method.

I started out using simple psychology, then NLP (neural linguistic programming), and eventually evolved a much simpler understanding of women and methods of dealing with them, which has been gained through psychology and human study, but even more so through years of interactive analysis.

What "simpler understanding" you may ask? Well after YEARS and YEARS of study, fieldwork, and seductions, the thing that led me here was that I conquered my weight problem. I am 5'7" (5'9'' in my "field" boots) and used to weigh a "power lifter styled" mix of muscle and fat that was 240 lbs. Not a pretty picture to look at, hence my study of seduction. I finally got down to a leaner, muscular 185lbs. This is when I noticed a massive change in dealing with women. They made it easier - less testing, less flake outs, and less overall resistance to my sexing them.

I had always been taught that it is not the product, but the marketing, that gets someone to buy something. I had always learned that "it’s what’s on the inside” that counts. Also, that "women think different from men", "women don't really like sex so it doesn't matter what you look like, but more what you say or make them feel". Comforting words to the unattractive guy, But not something that produces results for the said guy.

Perhaps you’re saying "but then what am I gonna do??? I'm an ugly, short or fat fucker!" Well the same understandings and methods I discovered with the understanding that women LOVE sex, just as much as men do is gonna be your key to getting them as well. There are methods and tactics that will get you sex with HOT women even if you are less than average in looks. The same methods I and other semi attractive guys can use to land 8-10 scale women without hardly any rejection can be used by you to land the same women with just a little more effort, and a little more rejections.

I in so many words finally started selling a higher quality product, and in doing so learned what the reaction and interactions were like when she wanted to buy, and already knew what they were when it was gonna be a difficult sell. By becoming attractive it was easier for me to learn how to convey that I was.

Since,

I have trained men who were FAT, ugly, average and good looking to do the same things I do and gotten them laid FAST without much study at all or any improvement to their looks.

So give this a chance, if you wanna get laid.


Section 1:

The first understanding you must have, is what I mean when I refer to a "state". I simply mean your state of mind, the feelings in your body, and the overall YOU at any given moment. Can you recall a time, the last time that you were totally HOT and HORNY for a woman - to the point you had an erection, felt slight pain in your stomach, how you looked at her, and how you were thinking at the moment. What did that feel like? You were in "sexual state" at that point.

Section 2:

Women think VERY similarly, and operate biologically quite the same sexually as men. Since biblical times, women have been conditioned by society that this is wrong though. They put on a mask that conforms to social norms. The "slut" "whore" or promiscuous woman who has many sexual partners is actually superior in her lack of suggestibility compared to regular women who maintain monogamous relationships because of societal expectations. Things had not been this way in the human mating ritual prior to the last 2-5000 years. Beta (inferior less attractive) males who happened to be intellectually superior set up misogynistic arranged marriages, barter systems for financial ownership of wives, religious persecution and moral persecution for women who enjoyed sex with the alpha (superior more attractive) males, as a means of being able to secure sex for themselves with no alpha competition.

Today, religion, moral conduct, and societal expectations cannot RULE the female sex drive, nor her instincts and her desires by force. This leads us ALL to a problem. Women seek and choose long term relationships with only the most desirable of men. They often try to entrap the alpha male into unnatural sex commitments, while giving the beta male no sex because they want to have one partner, and do not want it to be a beta male. Kinda backfired on them cheeky little shit heel betas didn't it?

Now women "cheat" when they want sexual variety and then are scorned by society as "sluts" or "unfaithful bitches", despite the reality that it’s just natural for a sexually healthy human being to want variety in sex partners.

It is VITAL to have the understanding that women (sexually healthy non frigid women) LOVE sex and desire it just as much as we do. YET they cannot come out and admit it or be labelled a slut, AND cannot act on it consistently (outside of long term relationships or with multiple partners) with anyone’s knowledge or be labelled the same far faster. Of course, as of late, more and more women are admitting their desire for sex and acting on it more casually.

Section 3:

The lone wolf.

Approaching single, lone women will be the staple of you sexual diet. Attempting to seduce women while in the company of others, her friends, your friends, and other people in general is often a dumb idea. “WHY”, you ask? Read section 2 again. They want sex, they want sex NOW with almost any guy who isn't obese or deformed, but they do not want the world to know, and they will start to think "if I do this what will it make THEM think", rather than "do I trust this guy" "am I attracted to this guy" and "what is he making ME feel sexually". Reading this material from the standpoint of applying it at a party or in front of 2-3 women at a time will make it seem unworkable. So read from the perspective of you and a single lone (isolated) woman, or distanced from others (semi isolated), and it will come into focus.

Section 4:

Your initial state when seeing women you want is very important: the right one will cause you to approach them, the wrong one will panic and confuse you - preventing you from taking any action to ever meet them. If you do not meet them you almost certainly CANNOT have sex with them. Your internal state when you first see an attractive woman must be one of sexual enthusiasm, horniness, and unapologetic desire. NOT one of panic and wonder of what to do or what to say. When you first see your lone wolf, in a bar, a coffee house, a dept store, a bank, the gym -ANYWHERE - (I like the magazine racks at dept stores, where I can stand there and wait ‘til some Cosmo magazine reading hottie comes into what feels to her like your space, and feels like she’s approaching, then boom I’m on it "so what ya reading?"), anyway ANYWHERE you see them you must imagine having sex with her, visualize it, feel the desire and lust. ALWAYS do this as soon as you see a woman you find attractive and eventually the state you will go into when seeing a woman will be one of –sexual- state, rather than panic or fear of meeting her. This makes approaching random lone women easier. Ted Bundy, the infamous serial killer/sociopath didn't feel fear or panic when he saw a target. He felt rage, sexual perversion and desire to kill, hence NO fear to approach them, of course wanting to have sex isn’t the same thing, but its still more effective than feeling fear or confusion about your desires and direction.

One thing ill mention here. I cannot give you real desire for sex, it must be natural. If you could have a new ULTRA 10 hot bodied perfect woman in your bed every night, yet EVERYONE else would see her as a nasty ugly fat girl, would you still do it? NO I’m not gonna alter you in some supernatural way for you to think ugly women are good looking. If you said “no” to this question though, you need to evaluate if you want women for shared sexual gratifications, or if you want them to impress friends, family and co workers? Do you wanna be a “ladies man” A “seduction master?” the “scoring machine” amongst your buds? Of course, who doesn’t? But is that more of a concern than actually having good sex with women you find attractive? If so then you need to A. stop masturbating so much (to increase your drive), B. search yourself to see if you are a real heterosexual, C. maybe consider getting an “arm piece” girlfriend for the social status you desire, D. learn to quench your lusts with sexual gratification rather than keep trying to create envy in others, as you’ll never be convinced you’ve done enough of that. If you want and desire new, exciting, frequent sexual experiences with different fresh women then read on.

Section 5:

Understand that women do not have some kind of special intuition about people, see Ted Bundy example above for proof. A lot of crap floats around about female minds being different or more intuitive, "they can smell an agenda" "if you don't come from a genuine place of curiosity and care they will reject you" blah blah blah. You WANT them to "smell your agenda" of wanting sex, this is a GOOD thing, as long as it isn't verbalized. This is what women call a "subtle confident man". I will discuss how to MAKE her understand your intentions WITHOUT words later on. It is a good thing for her to know you want sex, without you being tacky and verbalizing it (making her reject you because of her societal conditioning mentioned earlier).

Section 6:

Looks count, though perhaps not as much as is typically presumed. As was discussed in Section 2, women think MUCH like men when it comes to mating.

To illustrate my point on this:

Imagine being alone in a room, with an ugly or mediocre woman. She comes over and lays her head on your lap. You hear her whisper, "I like you a lot". She smiles, comes up, and kisses you. Your friends are not there, and they will never know. You are getting more turned on as she rubs your upper legs, inching closer, closer, and closer to your crotch. What are you gonna do to stop her? Answer this only to yourself - not to friends or people who could judge you - and you’ll know that you’d likely have sex with her. ONLY in the case that she is nearly deformed, smells bad, or is morbidly obese ect., would you be likely to turn her down. Essentially, you’d only turn her down if she failed turn you on at that time.

To further explicate, consider the following. Not an exact science by any means, but perhaps a rough model of what you can generally expect.

Looks, Effort, and their Interrelation:

Looks scale: -1- being the worst conceivable, and –10- being the best.
Effort scale (amount of women approached and overall drive to ensure sex with them): -1- being utterly rarely, -5- being a few on weekends or acquaintances from social circles, and -10- being at least three new women per day. –1- drive = will say hello to a woman but not much else, -5- will try to get her interested in him until the first sign of trouble or disinterest, -10- will outright make her become angry or verbally reject you 100% before even considering moving on.

Take a guy who is a –1- in looks (perhaps fat, short, hideous face, balding, old, smelly, poorly dressed, etc.), but a -10- in effort. This guy will STILL land women who are -5.5s- once in while, and –3s- frequently.

To explain, allocate 1 total point for every 2 points on the scale, for what you can get with maximum effort. So, if you are a –10- in looks, but only exert a –1- in effort, you can probably still sex -5.5s- (ie. 11 divided by 2) on occasion, and approximately half of that, or -3s-, whenever you are inclined. Eventually you will arrive at someplace in between your –maximum- capacity and your –easy- capacity for your regular quality of women.

I, for instance, am maybe an –8- in looks (short, ok face, good built body, well dressed and groomed), and a –10- in effort. So dividing by two, we allocate 4 points for looks and 5 points for effort, arriving at a 9 at –maximum- capacity, and approx. 5 at –easy- capacity. I have of course gotten some 10s in my day, but that's just the deviation, as women higher than 6 would be for Example Guy #1. So to recap:

Example Guy 1:

-1-LOOKS + -10-EFFORT = 11,

THEREFORE,

MAXIMUM CAPACITY = 5.5, EASY CAPACITY = approx. 3

Gun:

-8-LOOKS + -10-EFFORT = 18,

THEREFORE,

MAXIMUM CAPACITY = 9, EASY CAPACITY = approx. 5

What creates the extra points from effort is that you meet MORE women, so SOME of these women will find even the guy with –1-looks/-10-effort somewhat attractive. Probably the best that he will ever do is a 6 who somehow finds him attractive. Mr –10-looks/-1-effort could go out approaching at a 5.5 in effort and change his whole lot, because he would meet so many more women who would find him attractive, or who have trouble saying no to his advances, but instead he takes the easy ones. His loss. By the way, Mr.-10-looks/-1-effort, and Mr. –1-looks/-10-effort are both REAL people that I know, and it works out about the same for both of them with women. If Mr. –1-looks/-10-effort suddenly stopped meeting and trying to seduce new women, he would probably go to his grave never having had sex again, unless maybe with some chance woman of his low calibre were to come along and make the effort herself.

Section 7:

There are –many- ideas about seduction, getting laid, having a lot of women, ect, that can be debated and contested. But there is –one- that cannot be by anyone with any rational thought process. You MUST make an effort. Specifically, you must approach women on the street, at gyms, dept stores, bars, nightclubs and any other venues you can come up with. Sure you can get a job working with women or a gimmick to try to attract them to you, but its 5% as effective as actually doing the work, and having the will and drive. Simple logic, which can escape from you if you over-complicate your style of dealing with women. Don’t just sit and memorize materials til the end of time, get out and apply things you learn. HARDEST part to do in any area of life. WILLPOWER to try is more important than any formula for success.

I’m gonna do you a huge favour right here in this section. Maybe give you ultimate success with women maybe save you from reading any further and wasting your time. Decide will you A, go out and try this stuff on AT LEAST 1 woman within the next week, and at least 1 every week after that? OR, will you stop reading now and decide you don’t really have the willpower to try?

Of course if you KNOW you are just reading this for the hell of it, and don’t wanna have sex with lots of women that’s fine. But don’t read it, question it, analyze it and determine it can’t work for you, get up and do something.

Section 8:

As HARPED on above you MUST approach. Moreover, you MUST be in "sexual state" or be turned-on/horny for your target. Any fear of doing so must be quelled by the realization that she wants sex just as much as you do, though maybe not with you, and that the way society is structured it is YOUR job to initiate the encounter and find out. The sexual state, along with the realization that she wants sex, will make you do MOST if not ALL of the actions necessary to be your most attractive all by themselves.

It exudes a "confidence" that,

makes you speak with a better more attractive tone of voice (bedroom voice)

causes you to hold eye contact better and more sensually

causes you to touch her more and more sexually (getting her ready for the sexual encounter)

causes you to keep a level of physical closeness that builds a strong sense of comfort in her

causes you to not pander or be a beggar (as you realize are just as valuable sexually), so,

you don't buy her drinks like the rest of the losers do

you don't give insincere compliments like the rest of the losers do

you don't pander to her to entertain like the rest of the losers do

you don't brag like the losers do

you don't come off sexually androgynous and hide your masculinity like the losers do

And as a result of all this, you are not branded yet another everyday chump hitting on her.

Your single-minded intention, body language, and sexuality prevents the bad "loser" type actions, and nurtures the seductive ones - all in one single state. You are branded a sexual being, boyfriend material, sexual material, IF the requisite physical attraction is there.

Section 9:

I will now attempt to give you some grasp of the above seductive behaviours that will create an optimum level of attraction, and some grasp of those that will make you seem a loser or move things in the wrong directions.

Operating under an understanding that women love sex, need their desires filled the same as men, and shouldn't be paid or rewarded for something they want to share just as much as you do, will allow you to avoid the damning behaviours covered in section 9.

9.1 Chump or champ? The chump thinks women “GIVE” a man sex because its more important to them, and they should be paid for it by means such as "dates" undeserved compliments, humour, entertainment ect. A champ knows women love sex just as much as men so therefore the gift that is given in return for sex with a woman is the sex itself. Which are you? When was the last time you complimented a woman? Was it a woman that you wanted sex with? Have you ever complimented a woman you didn't want sex with? Have you ever complimented someone for something other than their appearance? Ask yourself these questions and you’ll know if you are acting like a chump or a champ.

9.2 Do you brag around women? Well stop it if you do. If she isn't attracted to you, and even if she is, this isn't moving things into any kind of a sexual encounter. It is a waste of time and energy to brag, as everyone can see it when someone does it, and takes the claims made as lies, even if they are true. BE SEXUAL, as this serves to project without words that you are good in bed, well endowed, and worthwhile enough to be this confident. Of course don’t put yourself down either. This is very powerful knowledge that I’m giving you here, which few people know, and since I have a 130 IQ I can decipher this type of thing.

See that was bragging and it was kinda lame huh? That was a joke, and ALSO not a good idea during a seduction. Here is why......

9.3 A commonly observed scenario: a woman laughs at guy’s jokes, and then ends up having sex with him later on. Predictably, every guy there says, "She must like a guy with a sense of humour", and proceed to go out and ENTERTAIN, rather than seduce women, in hopes that she will like them SOOO much she will jump his bones right there. Not gonna happen unless she is VERY attracted. We wanna work with what looks we have and move them in the right directions for sex better than other guys, not create a non sexual rapport with jokes and funny stories.

When a woman is asked "what do you like in a guy?", she doesn’t usually say "LOOKS and GOOD SEX" or else be branded a slut. SO, she grumbles "a guy with a sense of humour". She LIKES those funny men, she doesn't HAVE SEX WITH those funny men unless they happen to be attractive as well as funny. By the way, when a woman says "confidence" that's as close to saying " a guy who knows I wanna have sex and creates the opportunity for it aggressively" as women usually get. Don't listen to what women (or men) say, but rather observe what they do, and your eyes will not deceive or confuse you like your mind’s interpretations of the words will. A sense of humour isn't a bad thing, but its not sexually motivating or progressive. Stand up comedians are often natural entertainers because they have learned that their poor looks can be accepted that way. Check stand or bar stool comedians are the same entity with less talent. At the end of the night they go home and fuck the sleeve of their favourite jacket rather than a woman. Some people say "nice guys finish last", because they see the funny entertainer go home alone. While the horny aggressive "jerk" gets the woman sexually turned on and moves her into isolation with him, rather than entertaining her endlessly in public.

9.4 Payment based behaviours such as buying drinks for women at bars, giving them flowers, fixing their things, driving them places you aren’t going with her to, are all LOSER actions. Of course people like things like this, but these things conveys to her sexuality as "he isn't valid sexually because he is a poor lover or has a small penis, so he pays for sex with gifts of his time and money, he is a beta male". During ALL initial encounters with women, if requests are made for anything, ask yourself "would I do this for a causal acquaintance or male stranger?" If your answer is “no”, then don't do it. Of course you might buy a good friend accompanied to a bar a drink, but would you really buy a male stranger a drink? Didn't think so, unless it was to PAY him for something. Wanna test it out? Go buy 10 women at a bar a drink, and see if you don't walk out alone with 4-5 "thank yous”, a glare, and 4-5 waves of astonishment for your troubles. Do it 100 times and you may get a girl that's REALLY attracted to you that will engage sex with you, but you've now paid 500 dollars (5 bucks a drink) to get there. Go to a brothel if you want to pay for sex like a lowly ‘john’.

9.5 Reading her palm, doing a psychic "cold reading", doing a handwriting analysis, playing a game of some kind ARE all LOSER behaviours as well. You may get lucky and she wont decipher that you are paying her with this entertainment and brand you a poor lover or micro penis equipped man, but it STILL does not move them into a sexual direction of any kind, so don't waste the time. Besides, tampering with these mystic forces is a one-way ticket to eternity in hell, ha ha ha.

9.6 Speaking romantically or about wonderful states of mind and such may brand you a good boyfriend or husband material, which may eventually lead you to sex with her. It will go WITH her social conditioning rather than busting through it and getting to the natural woman who likes sex. However, she will most times "make you wait" or want to "date" first in this context. "Making the guy wait" is a time-honoured bullshit social conditioning that being romantic or "Don Juan" "Casanova" style will get you into 75% of the time with any given women. This is STILL paying for sex, just in a more effective though more time consuming way than other standard suck up tactics. Do this kind of thing AFTER sex if you want to see her again and pursue a long-term relationship. There is no more sure-fire way to get a woman into a romantic relationship than to have sex with her right away, because unless she has one night stands A LOT she will justify her break in conditioning with "it was love at first sight" or "we just had such a good chemistry I couldn't make my new boyfriend wait". By the way get caller id if you are gonna have a lot of one night stands, or avoid the woman knowing where you live or your phone number. The same dynamic I just wrote about will cause women to stalk you and demand relationships, if you aren't ready for one be prepared to say "get lost" a lot.

Entertainment, gimmicks and flattery can only buy you RAPPORT with women, they do not build attraction or guarantee sex. If after using something like this to get a rapport, you find yourself in bed with a girl, she would’ve been there FASTER if you hadn’t used the pandering, entertaining and ass kissing beforehand. CONSERVE YOUR TIME, creativity, and passion for women who are actually attracted to you.

9.7 DATES: NO DATES from here on out. The simple act of going on a date immediately puts her social conditioning into play HEAVY and the "make him wait" dynamic is introduced. I have NEVER been on a date with a woman, and I have had plenty of sex. Get the woman isolated with you (alone. just you and her out of public) soon after the initial approach for your "date" aka getting to know each other. I’ll discuss how to do this later on.

9.8 NO PHONE NUMBERS, from here on out, you can go out and get 10 numbers a day for 30 days, that's 300 numbers, of those 300 maybe ONE will end up in bed with you after you call. If on all 300 you had stayed there after you approached, conveyed your sexual state, waited for her to go into sexual state, and then isolated her, you would have only approached 50 tops the whole month as you would have been to preoccupied in bed with 10 of those 50, avoiding another 250 approaches. If she finds you at all attractive she will talk to you right then and there, and most likely if you play the game right go home with you that day or from that bar, or into the sex room at a party.

Of course calling a woman, buying her a gift or going on a date with her inside the context of a relationship is fine, but not before she’s proven herself attracted to you enough for sex to happen.





Gunwitch

老岸

Gunwitch Method - Part 2
by Gunwitch

Part 2 of Gunwitch Method covers the most important thing to be learned from GWM: Sexual State

Section 10: Sexual state broken down.

Sexual state is THE most important thing you will learn from this guide. It is THE mind state you will be using to deal with women you want to sleep with. It is most likely the mind state you've had every time you ever sexed a woman in the past, at least as soon as the point came when you KNEW it was gonna happen. There is a certain "walks like a duck acts like a duck, must be a duck" dynamic working for you in the sexual state. If you act like her lover, act like you are in a sexual encounter and assume the behaviors and actions of a great lover, she eventually will start to think you are a waterfowl. Just kidding, of course she starts to go into the same states of mind from other sexual encounters she has had in the past, if she is at all attracted. This is what’s called "rapport congruency". You can look it up if you want to read 300 pages of dime store psychology, but suffice to say, if all the actions and states are present your mind kinda starts to assume it's the same situation, a milder form of "deja vu".

Furthermore, when someone perceives something in someone, but isn't directly told to them verbally by the person, they tend to think its THEY who are the ones imagining it – that it is comes from within them. That's why I tell you later to not verbalize your sexual intent in any way, as when you don’t, she will more likely to think, "Why am I thinking sexually about this guy….hmmm I must want him or else I wouldn't see him as such a horny guy."

The "sexual state" is readily stepped into by imagining how you interacted with your last lover when in the bedroom before sex, or during pillow talk, and had a lustful desire for the woman. These are the things that it should encompass. These specifics are not to be used individually, but as an overall state that you go into when dealing with a woman. Read Bruce Lees Tao of Jeet Kune Do for an understanding of not focusing on specific technique but rather on overall strategy that encompasses several techniques.

My method has been compared to this type of "fluid" theory, contrasting other seduction methods that are closer to classical Karate, which focuses on memorized techniques that take longer to master, and are harder to remember under stress. What follows of more of a troubleshooting guide.

10.1 Sensual eye contact (EC). Proper eye contact with a woman is an important piece of your sexual state. The "bedroom eyes" are something you will need to convey during the encounter, since you want her to develop them as well, as she gets more and more comfortable with you and begins to mirror your actions and "vibe". "Bedroom eyes" are also much more attractive than darting or fearful eyes.

10.2 Closeness, or for the nit picks "physical proximity" to her is also very important. Since you aren't gonna be seductive or sensual standing 2 feet away from her, you need to be within 6-8 inches of her - VERY CLOSE. You slowly move into this as you sense her loosening up a bit. Of course good breath is a crucial at thi