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by Cameron Teone
One of the most debated issues in the dating circles is the issue ofroutines. I am constantly asked this question as well, and I wanted toclear up some general misconceptions. This is a generally wildlymisunderstood concept, and more importantly, many
This ends up hurting guys in attracting women in the long term.
It’s about the issue of ROUTINES. More specifically, it’s about using Routines to pick up women.
This repeated question rehashes old debates due to its vague nature.Before you can begin to argue about routines, you have to first definewhat you mean by this word.
Once upon a time, everyone seemed to have a canned script. Every singlepickup in the “Seduction Community” followed a memorized speech for themost part. This was described by Neil Strauss in his book. It’dresemble something like this:
Opener-80s dogs,
Best friends test,
Xyz story,
DHV, (or neg of your choice if that was your thing)
Story # 2,
If you’re still unfamiliar with what I am describing, here is the deal:
Guys would memorize a script verbatim and repeat the same thing toevery single girl they came across. (or every single group of women)
A guy would approach 10 girls in a bar and run the exact same script to each single girl.
Most of these routines were things guys read on the internet andstarted spewing off, and eventually, a lot of guys moved away fromthat. Attracting women is about attitude and subtext more so than textand conversational threads. Many of us quickly figured that out andstarted focusing on the subtext of the interaction.
What do you convey during your conversational threads? That is the keyquestion. Thus, as some point, you stop caring about the topics andstart focusing more on having a good time.
We have to draw a line as to what defines a routine. To me, routines are memorized canned scripts that you repeat over and over.
But then what about Personal Repetition of favorite gestures, stories, jokes, and mannerisms?
These are all things we develop which are personal to us. Now, youcould label these routines but I do believe there must exist adistinction between personal stories and “Memorized Scripts read overthe internet.”
Based on what we do, who we look like, our personalities, who we are,and our value filters, we all develop personal habits. It’s like if youhear the following often enough, “Hey!! Whoa! You know you look likeSylvester Stallone???” You are going to develop a few responses thatwill be repeated quite often when that situation presents itself.
Similarly, we all have certain facial gestures, smirks, and storiesthat are unique to us. We tend to repeat these because they are habitsbased on positive reinforcement. A lot of times, these stories arefueled by our beliefs and values. One of my friends has a rather poeticflowery-language style of talking to women. It resembles something outof a romance novel.
It sounds something along the lines of, “Her eyes glisten under themoonlight while cool wind glides on the surface of her skin.” Truth betold, I couldn’t even say that without having tears from laughing toohard. However, it works for him because it’s CONGRUENT with his persona.
A good friend of mine, Steve P, has spiritually driven beliefs andrelated anecdotes. He speaks with a commanding voice and is a greatteacher, with a very “In your face” demeanor.
Both of these people their perspective preferred topics they enjoy talking about.
Are these routines? By a literal definition, perhaps they are, as theyare repeated often enough. However, these really are their beliefs andthis really is who they are.
The mistake a lot of guys make is that they “Borrow” other people’sconversational topics and behavior and try to repeat it verbatim asthough it were their own. This normally backfires due to theincongruence. Some guy is saying the words but his personality andstyle does not match the conversational thread. Women can sense thisincongruence very easily.
The reason these conversational topics work for these particular men isbecause the words match the persona of the person. Congruence inidentity is far more vital than any actual words you can speak.
Back to our routines and examples:
I live in CA and some people might say we are arrogant about it. Solet's say I meet a girl from Detroit (which between us really is adump), and I ask her where she is from. Upon hearing "Detroit", thereis a good chance my reply might be, "Oh! Really?? I am sorry." with asmirk. (note: A lot of calibration plays into this. Certainpersonalities can't handle this sort of humor so you stay away from it.)
So what happens? Well, if done right, this may get a playful punch inthe arm, which I can take a number of ways. If she is offended by it, Ihave ways of doing a bit of backtracking to lighten her up. So thequestion becomes: Is this a routine?
It's definitely repetition. I don't ever approach any group of girlsthinking this is my plan. If it happens, it happens. You sort of justfeel the moment. These stories aren’t contrived in order to meet women.They are rather personal anecdotes that help convey personality.
I can tell you that I have heard my friend’s hilarious stories of hisexperience working as a bouncer on a few occasions. Another friend ofmine has traveled all around the world and I have heard some of hisstories repeated a few times, especially at social gatherings withwomen around. They weren’t ever part of a canned script but when theconversational topics arose, it was a given that they’d tell thesestories.
I am pretty sure I’ll hear some of these same stories again. You’llnotice that a lot of guys who are good story tellers repeat the samestories over and over again. It’s not part of a contrived plan. Theyenjoy telling these stories and people usually like hearing them.Sometimes, people even ask for them. “Hey man, tell that story againabout that one time where you got lost and peed on a cop car, and theychased you down...” (By the way, I just made that story up.)
The important thing to remember is that these stories can be consideredyour personal routines, but they are conveying your personality andrepresents events from your personal life.
Thus, you have to distinguish between someone’s personal life storiesand personality-driven traits versus canned scripts read and memorizedon Internet chat boards and forums.
As you go through this journey of becoming better and more comfortablein approaching women, you will find that you are developing your ownnuances. This means you are developing you and your natural style thatis specific to you. You’ll also find yourself telling a lot of storiesfrom your personal life that are unique to your experiences.
Your style will be different than mine, and mine will be different thanmany of my friends. Why? Because we are all different people withdifferent personalities.
Some of us are sarcastic, and smart asses.
Some of us have a dry humor,
Some of us are practical jokers,
Some of us love very physical type of humor and so forth.
If you encourage your own natural approach, you will cultivate anatural style. This will always be congruent to who you are becauseit’s well rooted in your personal life stories.
This will in turn, help you ATTRACT And KEEP the women you finddesirable. Your stories will convey your personality, and yourexperiences, and it will always be congruent.
Wishing you the best,
Cameron Teone

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How to Construct Routines

by parkblvd,

The nature of routines, how to construct them and how to be congruent with them.


0. COOL ROUTINES VS BEING COOL
Any newbie can spout the best friends test. Or the sisters/bubble wrap/angel devil script. Or say that he and random HB would never get along. All of these are awesome, and have their place in a PU. But none of them convey WHAT KIND OF GUY YOU ARE.
I'm willing to bet it will take many newbs a LONG time to feel congruent spitting out all these canned lines - UNLESS you have some meat - some routines to flesh out *your* observations and experiences. This post is about developing that meat in a way that's congruent (true) to YOUR nature. It's about showing girls how YOU view the world, so they see how cool you are. You can try to do this naturally, but that might take you a LONG time. The way I did it? Read on.

1. HOOK
FIRST, you need to grab people's attention FAST. Words like "poop", "cancer", or any old racial slur will work, though they lack elegance.
Currently, I hit girls with "You guys look really serious! / focussed! / tentative! / distracted! / concerned! / spaced!" Often, they do. (A *lot* of people demonstrate one of these emotions.) For happy laughing girls talking to each other, you could say they're "hyper-feisty", but better is to use a more direct opinion opener, or honestly, a completely different high-energy game. I'll post on that more when I've got it down better.
These kind of emotional reads (cold reads) usually grab the attention of the set for a few seconds. If for some reason, you can't read their emotional state (turned backs, bitchy girls), then just go for the female opinion, followed by the time constraint. It's indirect and a little weak, but what can you do?

2. SUBJECT
So now you need to follow up with... a real routine. How do you construct one?
First, if you cannot hold an interesting conversation, do NOT try to improvise!!!! If you've ever seen improv, you know that most guys are NOT funny when they improvise. Especially the ones who put on shows, since they're usually annoying, 2-bit actors who will laugh at the stupidest shit.
Instead, here's how I prepared my whole set of routines. Each took about 10 minutes to prepare.
Take a topic. It should be a topic that affects a few people personally, though it doesn't have to be. It also doesn't have to have anything to do with you - I'll get to realism later. For now, let's choose baldness.
Your second hook is just a statement on that topic.
"You know how when guys get old, they start losing their hair?"

3. SOCIAL DYNAMICS
Every routine MUST contain an element of SOCIAL DYNAMICS. How does this topic affect people socially?
"I have a friend - he's 22 - he's ALREADY losing his hair. SOCIAL NIGHTMARE."

4. STORY
This is the tricky part. You have your premise - so what.
Ok - what I said about Letterman above? *You* personally can imagine several celebrities that are good at talking to people. So take one that you style yourself after (say Howard Stern, Al Pacino, or Will Ferrell), and imagine him talking about this topic. Just talking and talking. LET HIM TALK (in your head). If he says anything interesting, write it down.
Since this sounds like I'm insane and listening to voices in my head, let's be more specific.
To be engaging, you need to have an attitude, and what Tyler calls a conversational frame. But this is annoying terminology. *You need to be able to hold someone's attention with a short premise*. The best people in the world at this are comedians, but other celebrities can as well. Imagine Dave Letterman talking about a bald guy:
"Well, this guy, he's 22, and he's already balding! What is that? [aside to Paul] His hair - well, he's got some on the top, and some on the sides, and well, it just looks like - you know that starfish on SpongeBob? Yeah. Poor guy. And you *know* it's not helping him, you know, with the ladies."
You can imagine the same thing coming out of Chris Rock's mouth, or Damon Wayans's, or Greg Giraldo's, or even Eric Cartman's. Point is - find an edgy comedian/celebrity who can tell stories, and imagine them telling it. And just write it down. That's your starting point.

5. ADD-ONS
*Now* that we have a boring story, we can start to add all the typical ASF BS.
5a. Physically/Vocally act it out
One good thing to do is to physically act out the premise JUST A LITTLE. Don't talk with your hands! Don't be too animated. But - when I say:
"His hair is sort of like - well, there's not too much on the top, and there's a lot on the sides," I'll put my hands up and demonstrate JUST A LITTLE.
If I'm talking about watching a sunset, I tip my head and actually see the sun set. My eyes narrow, my pupils likely dilate, the works.
If I'm talking about my nieces fighting, I do their voices, since it is ass-funny when I do high-pitched voices.
This sounds lame, and honestly, you really have to feel this out. Do a LOT of act-outs to begin with. Really - go MANIC for a week or two. It's not alpha, and nine out of ten times, it won't work. But that tenth time, girls will LAUGH at what you're doing, since every human does a few impressions VERY WELL, including some really unexpected ones. Remember which ones they laughed at, and after the two weeks are up, do only those. Don't be afraid to throw away parts that you LOVE, but which girls aren't laughing at. Also don't be afraid to throw away material Tyler and others say is field-tested. It is - for them, with their attitude. It will work for you - someday - but if it isn't working today, drop it.
It really, really helps at this point to watch Seinfeld's movie, "Comedian". If you think you know ANYTHING at all about how your audience (women and some dudes) will respond before you deliver the material, watch this movie.
5b. Qualify them
I hate saying, "Qualify them," since it sounds wrong.
YOU NEED TO MAKE HER QUALIFY HERSELF.
The easiest way to make a girl qualify herself DURING the routine is to compare her to something or someone in the routine. It doesn't have to be something about her, or even close to true - just MAKE IT UP. She'll STILL have to deny it!(2)
i.e.
"His hair is sort of like - well, there's not too much on the top, and there's a lot on the sides, KIND OF LIKE YOURS (point to the target)."
She denies the fact that she's losing her hair.
"No - there's a latin term for hair like yours - LITERALLY, it means 'Big Hair'."
She denies having big hair.(3)
(ha ha, I'm attracting her)
If you're much higher value than her, then you must tone this way down, but then again, if you're so high value, why are you reading something that says "for newbs" in the title? Also, anyone can call a girl a Powerpuff girl, a View girl, or just plain old "bitch". But if it feels awkward to just come out and do it at a random time, then give what I said a try.
5c. Drama
Anything that has you being chased, or you being beaten up, or you possibly dying in a comical manner is good. Also good are gay people, little kids, old men, and stuff little girls do. "I was being chased by a swarm of gay bees, and then the old beekeeper came out in his suit and beat the hell out of me, and finally his granddaughter took her stuffed bee and rammed it into my crotch" has a lot of drama.

6. MORE ROUTINES
So you made up a *30 second* routine. So what. Good job! Now make up six more. I'll do one here again - 26's glasses routine.
I hated that fucking routine. I'd run it, and the girls would say, ON or OFF and I'd have nowhere to go. But - this routine already has a hook! So I took this structure and said:
Can I add social dynamics? Ok - clearly, someone gave me the glasses. But why?
So I'd say, "Hey - do I look better with these on or off?" [hook]
(they answer, but since girls are weak, I don't care)
"I was in the Hamptons this weekend. With my friends. And this guy comes up to me and just starts talking. [social dynamics] He had these weird facial expressions - kind of like yours. It's not a good thing." [qualify your target]
She'll say, "What facial expressions?" And you don't care.
"So this guy said I'd look awesome with these glasses on. Not THESE glasses - another pair. So he just hands them to me. (hand a CB your glasses) So I try them on." [physical act out]
"But then he puts his arm on me like this [act out if you want], and I move away, and then he comes closer, and I'm like aaaa, and I have to all but RUN out of the club to get away from him!" [drama]
"About five minutes later I realize I'M STILL HOLDING HIS GLASSES."
Etc. Not bad. Let's do another!
Topic? Let's go WAY boring. Note - boring topics translate into low energy routines. They're useless in a club, and many other areas. But they'll be fine elsewhere.
The office copier.
Social dynamics?
People interact with the copier, and then with each other. But it goes badly.
(it's like writing a bad sitcom premise) It should involve children, since the image of a child with an arm stuck inside a copier makes me smile.
Hook - "You know how copying machines have that panel you need to open if things get stuck?"
Isn't that the start of the most boring story ever? Yet watch:
Well, I need your opinion. My boss took his daughter to work. [social dynamics] You kind of look like my boss - it's not good. [neg] In any case, his daughter, Tabitha, tried to copy something for show and tell - but the copier jammed. Who cares. Well, my boss wasn't watching - he and his secretary were out... you know. [physical act out - imply with the eyes]
So Tabby's like 8 - she needed a stool just to reach the top of the copier! So she reads what it says about the jam, and she opens the copier! First, she pulls the blue toner out and gets it all over her face. And THEN when she puts the blue toner back IN, and GETS HER HAND STUCK in the copier.
So here she is, little blue toner face girl, like tiny little Braveheart, with her hand stuck in the copier, freaking out [drama], but she's shy and doesn't want to call for help. And RIGHT then, another girl FROM HER CLASS, walks out of an office nearby. Her mom works there! And this girl sees chubby little Tabitha, face covered in blue toner, with her hand stuck in the copier, and starts LAUGHING at her. And LAUGHING. Which made Tabitha start CRYING and CRYING. BLUE tears. Of unimaginable sadness."
This story is fairly useless as a routine (it's filler), but I hope it shows that you can build a fairly interesting story out of just a few simple rules and ANY topic you want.
For kicks, here's the same story without ANY of the rules:
"You know how, like, copying machines have that panel you have to open if things get stuck? I had to open that panel a few days ago, and I was afraid my hand would get stuck in there. It didn't, though! So I can still masturbate, thankfully."

7. REAL STORIES VS FAKE ONES
If you can tell any old made up story without feeling weird, then go ahead and lie like a rug. Unless your life is fascinating, it's the easiest route, and so long as you stop before you get to rapport, you're fine.
But if you feel weird being dishonest (fucking hippie), then don't lie about everything. Only tell stories about familiar people or objects... BUT - they don't have to be true! Make up a backstory! See, if you can envision a familiar person or object really clearly, then you can almost CERTAINLY imagine a story around that person or object. That usually makes you feel so much less weird about the story. It makes you congruent.
Also - these hot girls, with their naughty bodies, when they act all bitchy for no good reason? That's just THEIR FANTASY about being important. It is NO MORE REAL than your routine about your retarded gay uncle. See, since girls are bad at THINKING and PLANNING, then instead of making a ROUTINE that's a bunch of bullshit, they've adopted an entire EMOTIONAL PERSONA that's bullshit. A facade. And it is a LIE.
So WHOSE fantasy is stronger? Her "I'm so important" fantasy, or *your* structured fantasy? Huh?
FUCK having the stronger reality. HAVE THE STRONGER FANTASY. BEAT UP her fantasy with your fantasy. Once your fantasy has kicked her fantasy in the teeth several times, her fantasy will run far, far away, back to its fantasy mama, and you'll be left with perfectly normal girls that you can gain rapport with. Plus, she'll love you for all the emotions you just took her through. Fuck yeah.

8. CONVEYING YOUR VALUES
I hate that terminology. Basically, you want the girls to see how cool you are. So make a list (as Doc suggested on Cliff's list not long ago) with all of the values you want to convey in a set. My list includes:
fun, dominant, funny, confident, studly, social, high status, non-judgmental, non-possessive, accepting of her sexuality.
Now all you need to do is imagine a routine that conveys each value. For non-judgmental and sex stuff, I use C vs U, except the person who told me is my stripper friend from Australia. For dominant, I use a "chumps in a bar" story, plus my 100% true "punched in the face" story. For high status, I say I have a PhD. Haaaaa. For social, I usually talk about all of the people I've met in the past week. For studly... ok, you got me. I have no idea how to convey that. ;)

9. FIELD THE ROUTINES
Everything you've done up to this point has taken, at most, two hours. If you took any longer, STOP. PENCILS DOWN. TURN IN YOUR WORK.
Now you need to go out and see which routines the girls like. These will NEVER be the ones you like. EVER. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THINGS YOU SAY ARE FUNNY. Only other people do. So you need to go out a lot and just field the routines. It's kind of fun - girls get SO into this bullshit, and if you ever run out of material, then just keep talking until they get bored. Even GUYS get into this bullshit - see Tyler's recent "astrology" post and all the replies it generated.
After you've been out for a week (or even a day or two!), you'll start revising. Trust me - if you're conscious of the process, you'll realize what parts work, and which ones don't. If you're not conscious of it, then get a wing, and listen to each other. You will NOT get laid doing this (well, ok, you might, since even chumps get laid every now and then), but it's like batting practice.
That's it.
Notes:
1. If it can't be done (they're looking away), then ask for a quick female opinion, and always time constrain when necessary, of course.
2. Exactly like Fox News does with the Democrats ALL THE TIME. Who cares if it's true - it WORKS. It makes them defensive, and their social value goes down as a result.
3. In Long Island, this is fucking hysterical, since she does have big hair.
Props:
90% of everything I've said in this post is sitting in Tyler's archive. But it's a big archive, and finding this stuff sucks. That's why $$$FEMINATOR$$$ was so awesome! He was like the ASF intern. Someone with a little experience who would go through that archive and pull out the nuggets would be so useful.
Also, huge props to Harmless, who I think has summarized all of this very well.
Finally, as I said up above, this is for my own usage. If you don't like it, don't use it. If you have constructive comments, go ahead. If you think it sucks, I'll only care if you can tell me *why*. Any other comments are not in my reality.
Besides - I'm WAY too busy listening to the voices in my head.
park
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Are Routines Crutches?

by Cameron Teone
Many guys in the seduction community use verbatim routines that they read online. In fact, this stuff has gone so mainstream now that I hear their banter in bars and clubs when I go out.
Some of these routines have become the new pickup lines.
It’s like if I see a guy with painted black nails and a goofy hat walk towards me or my female friends, I already know what’s coming out of his mouth before he even opens it.
Sometimes, these routines help guys who have absolutely nothing to say, to actually say something. It gives them an excuse to talk to women and that’s a good step in the right direction. Anytime you make an attempt to actually talk to a live woman, it’s a positive step.
But are these routines crutches?
I’d add that routines are absolutely crutches. Let’s be clear, by routines, I am talking about the traditional memorized canned scripts read online and regurgitate. To devote so much on conversational threads is to focus way too much on text, and this process isn’t all that much about text.
I think there is a natural path of progression for most community guys who start out with the opinion opener and routine stacks. (There will always exist a few exceptions such as guys lwho always want to further break things into more algorithms.) However, most other guys move on.
There is a paradigm shift that takes place. This paradigm shift hits you like a bolt of lightening and it occurs in that moment when you suddenly realize that you can almost say anything. As a buddy of mine once said, you can say the most retarded shit and get away with it. It’s because the process has to due with subtext and what you convey.
Naturally, most of us will revert to our personalities and stories from our lives. That is only normal, but along the way we discover that we can make conversations with the mundane, “Hello, how are you?? and still create attraction.
This is what completely eludes many people including some dating teachers.
Why does this forbidden conversational piece work?
How can one person say something so simple along the lines of “How are you?” and spark attraction while another person fails miserably by using the same line?
It’s because we can still exude confidence, playfulness, humor, non-neediness, and still present being a challenge through the mundane text. There no longer is a feeling within for a need to discuss who lies more, or whose jealous girlfriend burnt someone’s photos, and etc.
This is not to vilify anyone who uses the openers but rather, to only bring attention to the matter of the epiphany which takes places at that point in time when you realize, “Holy cow! I do NOT really need this sh*t anymore!"
It's what I call:

    * Doing a lot within the simplicity.
    * Doing a lot of subtlety within low movement.

One of best examples I can think of comes from movies and acting. Let’s make it obvious: Watch a really bad actor, or yet watch a pro-wrestler act during on of his interviews or schticks and you’ll super exaggerated movements, over the top behavior, yelling, and loud gestures. They are doing a lot. You can see it from 200 yards away.
These wrestlers start thinking they’re actually actors and start acting in movies. Well, if you’ve seen wrestlers act in movies, you’re familiar with the nauseous feeling you get in the pit of your stomach.
Now, observe a world class actor like Jack Nicholson and as you watch the performance, it appears as though he is doing nothing. In fact, while watching Jack, most people will think, “Sh*t, this is really easy. He is doing nothing. I can do what he is doing. Anyone can.”
However, he is doing a lot within that simplicity. In fact, he is actually doing MORE than the wrestler we can see from 200 yards away.
The difference lies within the subtleties.
So what the heck does this all mean anyway? As men progress through this journey of learning how to attract women, they have a choice: They can forever be stuck on focusing on the superficial, or they can decide to take it a step further and start focusing on the intricate subtleties of the interaction which could very well take place within the simple confines of “How are you.”

    * It's learning to do a lot within very little.
    * It's conveying your traits on a higher level yet moving on a lower plain.
    * It's learning to Feel more and thinking less.
    * It's being able to freely express the human experience through fluidity and freedom of self expression, feeling un-constricted if even it's for limited spurts at a time.

The way I see it is that you reach a point where much of this stuff becomes second nature.
You can then decide to go the organic route of instinctively feeling your way, expressing yourself, and having a great time while doing it, OR go the inorganic mechanical route of trying to analyze everything and break things into more and more algorithms.
It's an interesting and pivotal choice, and anytime you read writings by guys who have been around a while, you can very quickly distinguish which route they have chosen.
They’ll either be from the rigid routine spitting school, or the organic flow type of guys.
I can tell you this, the second group is a lot more fun to hang out with. At any rate, choose what suits you best, and progress towards what you envision yourself to become. Be what you want to become.
Are you going to choose to be the guy who is in a state of frenzy lost in complex algorithms analyzing every single interaction?
Or
Are you going to choose to be the guy who ACTUALLY ENJOYS social interactions with women and enjoys flirting with them?
It’s up to you to make this decision. If you’re the in latter group, you’d want to start focusing on the SUBTEXT of your interactions. What does your body language convey? How about your tonality?
What does your attitude convey?
How can you project this through your natural expression? Take care,
Cameron Teone

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Story Theory

by Wilder
Telling stories to a group of people is one of the best ways to generate attraction in pick-up when done correctly.
What follows are several things to consider when choosing and crafting stories for use in the field during attraction phases. They're more guidelines than hard and fast rules, as you can break most of them when you know what you're doing.

    * Story material This is close to a no-brainer. Choose stories that are interesting, fun and GIRL RELEVANT! Avoid stories about distasteful subjects, i.e. death, car accidents, bad breakups, etc. Usually these stories are funny. Use stories you tell often to friends and new people that get big laughs.
    * Be succinct Write your story out word for word and then gut it. Get rid of everything the listener doesn't need to know and doesn't care about. It's essential that you're ruthless here. Better to cut too much than too little. State the boring but necessary details as succinctly as possible.
    * Lead in This is how you start the story. The lead in should be congruent with the story to follow. Communicate using words, tonality and energy the type of story to follow. Some examples are, "Oh my God, the funniest/craziest/weirdest thing happened to me the other day!" or "Did you guys ever notice XXX?" or "You'll never believe this, check it out."
    * Initial hook An initial hook is something that makes peoples' ears perk up. It should be as close to the beginning of the story as possible and should be specifically chosen to make people lean in and pay attention. If your story is about something that happened to you at an S & M party, put that part up front!

      Bad: My friend called me the other day and left me a message to call him back. So I called him and he went on and on about his Mother's operation before finally telling me about this party he wanted to go to. Turns out, it's an S & M party!

      Good: So the other day I went to this S & M party!
    * Unanswered questions Craft your story so that there will be unanswered questions in the listener's mind. You want them to ask you questions that give you the opportunity to further increase your value.

      Example: So I was picking up my new car the other day and the salesman wouldn't stop asking me about my watch. The girl I was with finally told him we had to go so she could pick up her instrument for a concert she was doing that night.

      Unanswered questions:
      - What kind of car did you just buy?
      - What kind of watch were you wearing?
      - Are you rich?
      - Who was the girl you were with?
      - What kind of performance did she have to get to?
    * Allude, don't state directly In the examples above you're alluding. You're alluding to the fact that you have money, as you just bought a new car and have a cool watch. You're alluding to the fact that you hang out with cool girls. Stated directly, any of this information would sound like bragging, so you allude to it. Make them ask you about it; don't volunteer it.
    * Subcommunication This has to do mostly with tonality. The same story can be told playfully, seductively or in a way that generates intrigue. Calibrate to your audience and know what you want to subcommunicate.
    * Convey personality traits In telling a story, you're telling someone a great deal about yourself. Know what personality traits want to convey. Craft your stories to subtly tell someone you're adventurous, rich, famous, creative, courageous, etc.
    * Tonality This is hard to put in print, but vary your tonality as widely as possible. Talk slow, then fast, then low, then high and then higher! Make transitions smoothly and tell the story in a way that sucks your listener right in. Along with this, act out parts of the story with your hands or your whole body.
    * Have a punch line A punch line is a line that sums up your story in a powerful way. It's a way of letting the listener know that the story is over. It doesn't have to be funny, though in many stories used in the field it will be.

      Examples:
      - "That's the last time I take THAT dog to the beach!"
      - "From now on I'm asking to see girls' ID's!"
      - "That was the day I learned the true meaning of courage."

Short Example Story:The Girls at Burning Man are fucking CRAZY! So I met this girl at dinner and we really hit it off. We spent the whole evening together and she was great, but something seemed a little off. Anyway, she finally takes me back to her tent and it's really romantic and everything, then afterwards we fall asleep in each others' arms. In the morning I kissed her on her forehead, but she didn't wake up. So I left and went to my own tent, which was like 20 yards away, figuring I'd see her at breakfast. But she's not at breakfast. And she's not at lunch. And she's not at dinner. Finally after dinner, I see her across the space and she comes right over to me with this weird look on her face. She puts her hand on my chest, looks deep into my eyes and says, "Oh my God, you're so hot, I HAVE to meet you."
I looked at her and said, "Sarah, it's ME."
Then she gets this really weird look on her face and says, "How did you know my NAME?!"

    * Story material- Burning Man, Romance, Sex.
    * Be succinct.
    * Lead in- "The Girls at Burning Man are fucking CRAZY!." I'd say this animated and playfully, like there's a story coming.
    * Initial hook- Crazy girls at Burning Man.
    * Unanswered questions:
      - What is Burning Man?
      - What's Burning Man like?
      - Are chicks always so attracted to you?
      - What's wrong with this girl?
      - What happened next with this girl?
    * Allude, don't state directly. Much more effective than saying "Hey, chicks dig me."
    * Subcommunication- Audience dependant.
    * Convey personality traits:
      - I'm sexually open
      - I'm adventurous
      - I take things in stride
      - I'm cool with weird and unusual people and situations
    * Have a punch line: "How did you know my NAME?!"
    * Tonality: I use a wide range on tonality telling this story.

Game on- - Wilde

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Eighties Dogs

by Swinggcat
My friend just got two puppies, a Pug and a Beagle. She wants to name them after an 80’s pop duo... she wants to name them... DURAN DURAN
EIGHTIES DOG (Swinggcat) Hey guys, I need a quick opinion about something. My friend just got two puppies, a Pug and a Beagle. She wants to name them after an 80’s pop duo… she wants to name them… DURAN DURAN… I think that’s a horrible idea... you can’t have two dogs with the same name. Do you guys have any ideas? I was thinking Sonny and Cher would be a good one, because the Pug dog is a male and the Beagle dog is a female. But they’re 70’s, not 80’s, so that won’t work. Maybe Axel and Slash would be good, but they’re rock n’ roll hair band style. Milli Vanilli was a thought, but those are both guy names. We need a female name. Plus, Milli doesn’t fit a Pug or a Beagle. Swinggcat

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Fashion Tip
An original and highly underrated opener
by kooper.
Just go up and just tell them how they would look EVEN BETTER to you. "Wear your hair open", "open that up one more button", or just fix their clothes. tell her what would look amazing on her. Train your eye to look for imperfections and what to do against them. For the clueless, get two-dozen model magazines and look through the pictures SEVERAL times so you get some idea. Try to make up negs for these girls and point out what would look better on them (the model magazine idea is cro_badboy´s) This sets an interesting frame. first of all, you are teaching her how to please you, if she reacts well, praise her for being a good puppy. Second, it is obvious that you are the prize, that you have standards and that you know what you want. Women love the idea of seducing you, you just gotta teach them HOW and they will comply. This is *not* delivered playful or c&f or anything, just a genuine comment. From there, it’s easy to launch right into a routine (for example you can talk about what and how much clothes say about people and cold-read her right there. whatever you want.)

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Jealous Girlfriend

by Style
My roommate’s girlfriend just found a shoebox he keeps hidden in a dresser drawer, and she’s really upset about it.
JEALOUS GIRLFRIEND (Style) “Hey guys, I need a female perspective on something. This’ll only take a minute. My roommate’s girlfriend just found a shoebox he keeps hidden in a dresser drawer, and she’s really upset about it. It’s nothing bad, just pictures of him and ex-girlfriends on vacation and old love letters he got in high school and stuff. But for some reason his girlfriend is freaking out about this and wants him to get rid of it or she’s threatening to break up with him. Is this normal female behavior?” So now she wants him to burn the box or she’s leaving him, isn’t that fucked up?? (girls get ridiculously into this opener and it helps if you tease them for it) Style
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Girls Fighting Outsideby Mystery

did you see those two girls fighting outside? Like right outside the club...
With great enthusiasm... "OMG!… did you see those two girls fighting outside? Like right outside the club... they were totally going at it; one was pulling the others' hair, and the other one drew blood with her nails. And they seemed to be fighting over this short guy; he was standing near them just totally laughing! Mystery
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Two-Part Kiss Openerby Style

If a guy is dating a girl, and she goes out to a bar... and gets drunk and makes out with a GIRL for fun, is it cheating?
Yeah, I know, new opinion openers are getting tired. But there IS a hole in opinion openers, and this one fills it. The problem is that the most commonly used opinion openers (jealous girlfriend, david bowie, who lies more, etc) appeal mostly to women. And most of us are approaching MIXED sets. So this new one, which I've been using consistently for months now (and am loathe to give away but just can't help myself for some reason), is designed to do several things. It appeals to guys first and foremost; women get super- into it also; and it provides a way to AMOG guys in front of women. So, without further ado (okay, maybe a little more ado), I humbly present for your consideration...The Two-Part Kiss Opener. PUA: Hey guys, we're having a debate and need a quick opinion on something. If a guy is dating a girl, and she goes out to a bar with her friends one night and makes out with a guy just for fun, is it cheating?
GROUP: Yeah, it's cheating.
PUA: Okay, that makes sense. So here's the real question. And I'll tell you why I'm asking in a second: If she goes out and gets drunk and makes out with a GIRL for fun, is it cheating?
GROUP: (the responses will vary, but if any guys say "no," you can bust on them for having a double-standard etc.)
PUA: Okay. Interesting. The reason I'm asking is because my friend over there has been dating this girl. And she likes to go out and get drunk and make out with girls. Now, some guys might be into that, but it pisses him off and he thinks it's cheating. She says it isn't. So we were trying to figure out who was right.
GROUP: (discussion ensues, which you will have to soon cut off and move into your next piece of material because they will go on and on about this and stale the topic and convo) Enjoy. It's a nice change of pace for those who love Jealous Girlfriend but are tired of it. Report back on your results. Style
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Blonde Hairby Tyler Durden

Opened EVERY time in Toronto, and even huge AFCs on ASF have emailed me saying that its opened 100% of the time. I don't know of an opener that I've seen open more than this, so far. YOU: Guys.. get this.. I need an opinion..
THEM: What???
YOU: I'm thinking of dying my hair, TOTALLY BLONDE
THEM: no.. yes... no.. (they debate)
YOU: how about like this.. streaks.. etc etc (this transitions easily into "I'm going on TV.. Ricki Lake show.." or many other routines.. just pre-plan it, and it can go ANYWHERE)

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G-String Opener

by Badboy
this is one really crazy opener.
Funny like hell, try it G-string opener
Hey girls, I need female opinion on something..please give me one advice...
My friend totally fucked up his relationship with his GF.
Actually they are still together...into love with each other... but its going wrong way...
Girls :what, what?
Last month, he cheated his Gf with another girl from college, and Gf found g-string from that girl in a toilete next day.After big drama, he honestly told her that he actually has a fetish on dressing into girls underwear...
Now. Month after, my friend told me, that his Gf, found that as a totall turn on, and she request from him almost every night to dressinto her underwear....he told me he feels really stupid walking around his house in girls undderwear......what do you think he should do now??Is it a time to tell her?? Cause they are totally in love?? opener is field-tested, works beautifull....
most of times chicks will think you actually talk about yourself...
girl :you are actually asking for yourself, arent you??
me:yes...wow...yes I am shy... anyway.. what kind of panties do you have on yourself now?? what color.. I really love pink ones..show me.... just continue rollplaying... its so funny.. Btw. this is real life story from my life... From rocker44's Ultimate Opener CollectionG-STRING (Badboy) “Hey guys, you won’t believe what’s going on with a friend of mine and his girlfriend. They’ve been dating each other for six months now, and my friend really loves her. But they had this big fight a few weeks ago, and she went to visit her mother to cool down. While she was gone, my friend was so depressed, that he ended up hooking up with some random girl he met in a club. Anyway, a few days later, his girlfriend comes back, and she finds this girl’s thong panties in the bathroom, and she KNOWS this thong isn’t hers. So she confronts my friend on this, and he lies and says that the panties are his! And that he likes to dress up in women’s underwear. So I don’t know if his girlfriend knew he was lying and just wanted to punish him, or if she really is into this or not, but she said she thinks that’s really kinky and wants him to wear women’s underwear around the house. So he’s been doing this for a few weeks now and is absolutely… MISERABLE!” “So I think he should just come clean and let his girlfriend know what happened. What do you guys think? How important is trust in a relationship? Or do you think some things should remain hidden, even if it means being miserable?” Badboy

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Sincere Compliment
by Papa
"Hey...are you someone confident to accept a sincere compliment?!!!" "Hee...hee. Sure." "Cooool. Me too!! Hey, you go first. [pointing back to me] Fire away."
(I find this works really well to stack as a second routine after the opener - Magnus) Papa: Hey...are you someone confident to accept a sincere compliment?!!!
Hot Aussie Chick: Hee...hee. Sure.
Papa: Cooool. Me too!! Hey, you go first. [pointing back to me] Fire away.
Hot Aussie Chick: Haha + {compliment on Papa's clothes or sense of humor} or Haha + {cummon face}
Papa: [if not complimented] Just kidding...[if complimented, skip the just kidding] Actually, I came over here cuz you looked like [compliment +mini cold read].
Here's an example of one of dozens of approaches (even stopping mobile targets with the boomerang effect body language, credit Tyler D).
Papa: Hey...are you someone confident to accept a sincere compliment?
Hot Aussie Chick: Sure. [smile]
Papa: Me too. Fire away.
Hot Aussie Chick: Haha. Well, I like your jacket.
Papa: Ahh. You Aussie chicks rock. You know, I just had to stop you cuz you looked like someone interesting to talk to as you look so chill and calm, and someone just had to come over and enjoy the view of the pier and opera house with you. I'm Papa.
Hot Aussie Chick: Hi. [handshake] I'm [Chick's Name]
This kind of direct approach opened consistently and the game played out well because I'd continue from there with lots of ball-busting, playful kino, and conveyed a lot of fun.
Most of the time, I didn't get compliments from the girls, but I'd get something like this rolling:
Papa: [credit RJ, Style, and Playboy to helping to create this opener] Excuse me...are you someone confident enough to accept a compliment from a complete stranger.
Girl: Well, yeah. I guess so.
Papa: Sweet. Me too. You go first. Fire away (sp).
Girl: Ahhhh.
Papa: Just kidding. You know, I saw you and just had to come by and talk to you as you have interesting sense of style. You look like a little Aussie disco dancing homegirl. It's rocking, kiddo.
Girl: Hahaha.
Papa: Wow, your Aussie accent is so cute. It sounds like you are singing even though you are just talking to me. You are totally my new Aussie homegirl [wrap arm around chick].
Girl: Hahaaha. Where are you from?
And then the convo continues with the standard push/pull sequences.
I would also sometimes follow up the direct opener with opinion openers if the direct approach wouldn't fly, or else I'd introduce myself, and instigate lots of playful kino and jokes. Here, I've been cavemaning heavily with playful kino and excessive pimp talking and girls say I exude lots of sexual energy, but I misinterpret it to me getting to caveman more.
The pimp-talk I've been using is stuff that I've been watching Tyler do, where he'll talk to girls in the tonality as if he's the pimp and the girls are their hoes. I do this in much of my sets out here...sometimes overdoing it as I've been having so much fun experimenting with this.
Papa: [talking slow and in the ear of the girl as if I'm her pimp] Oh. Yeah...I...love...how...much...fuuuuuun...I am having...here.
Aussie Chick: [smiles and giggles at pimp talk] Oh yeah. Don't you find Sydney kind of a small place compared to LA.
Papa: [more pimp talk] Ohhhh...yeah...it's so small [push air away]...compared...to....L....A...LA...is...sooooo...muuucccch bigger...but...it's not....tooooo....biiiiigg.....it's just....the right.....size...I loooooove....it...soooo...much.
Aussie Chick: Hahahaha [smiles]. Oh...you just exude so much sexual energy.
Papa: [more pimp talk] Ohhhh...baby...yeah...you...know...[makes face as if I think I heard her say she wants to fuck now]...what I like...when you get so....to...the point...about sex...[cavemaning her and kissing her].
Aussie Chick: [smiles and laughs] Hey, did you hear what I was saying.
Papa: [continues with pimp talk] Ohhh...yea....baby...[goes for makeout kisses].
Aussie Chick: [smiles] Hey, you don't fuck around do you.
Papa: [continues with pimp talk, playful kino, caveman kino, push/pull body language (i.e. moving in for more kisses and then pushing her away...and then kissing her for real), lots of cocky and funny observational comments, and, now and then, aggressively grabbing the girl's drink out of her hand and chugging it...and then returning the drink]

Papa

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Plant and Stare

by Tyler Durden
My favourite opener lately is to just walk up to girls and just stop. Like plant myself in front of them. I give them kind of a boyish playful smiling face like I'm about to do something cocky or maybe I thought of something funny I'm about to say, and they start giggling. (key is to stop abruptly, and make the fun face, so they giggle). Then I'll either take a page from Juggler and reach out to shake hands with them (introduce myself to the HB8s and lower), and maybe do the spin move. Sometimes I'll just sit there until they giggle and say "what?? whaaaat??? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat???" I'll say "I can't tell you, we haven't known eachother long enough". You can do this to girls at tables, and then wait until they start asking you questions. Then say "I can only stay 30 seconds" and sit down. Then stay as long as you want. I find that this way of opening is pure money, because you convey alot of alpha "I'm not intimidated by you" characterstics by not even saying anything as your opener. Also, its very playful if done properly. You can also just use this as a style to lead into any opener that you want. IOW, follow the plant&stare with a standard opener. Make it a playful one though. Tyler Durden